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ESS is in off state

Hi,


im am installing a victron multiplus II with ESS (Austria grid). The ESS is shown to be in off state

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Multiplus does not who any lights in remote console.




How can i get ESS running?

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Alexandra answered ·

@nemo5

What firmware is on your GX and inverter?

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nemo5 avatar image nemo5 commented ·

GX is 3.20

Mulitplus is 510

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Alexandra avatar image Alexandra ♦ nemo5 commented ·

@nemo5

Do you see that your inverter is off?

ESS only works when the switch is in the on position. Or if switched off in software needs to be switched back on.

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nemo5 avatar image nemo5 Alexandra ♦ commented ·

Switch is in Position 1.

In the inverter die charge led is on, inverter led is off

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nemo5 avatar image nemo5 nemo5 commented ·

Switch is ON.

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nemo5 avatar image nemo5 nemo5 commented ·

When 1 disconnect main 230V supply, ac loads an AC-Out get power from the battery. The inverter is than working as expected. But not when using ESS.

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nemo5 avatar image nemo5 nemo5 commented ·

@Alexandra

Do you have any other ideas about what I can test? I'm running out of ideas about what else could be the problem.

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Alexandra avatar image Alexandra ♦ nemo5 commented ·

@nemo5

I see you dont mind digging around in code.

But since this a base program and can be made to work without know anything like that, lets go to basics.

Reset the in erter to factory default. Reprogram the required settings (monitor and ess assistant etc)

What battery do you have? Does it have comms with the GX?

Also why have you limited inverter power? Again reset the GX and start from base, get it working then you can alter setting.

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nemo5 avatar image nemo5 Alexandra ♦ commented ·

Hi,

> Reset the in erter to factory default. Reprogram the required settings (monitor and ess assistant etc)

I already started with a fresh config (not loading the old one) and sent this to the inverter. No change. Is there a other way except updating?


>What battery do you have? Does it have comms with the GX?

It is a LTO battery 22 cells Yinlong LTO 40Ah. Currenty the battery voltage is higher than programmed float / absobtion voltage because I have made the configuration very secure for the test phase. I hope that this shouldn't be a problem for the mutiplus. There is no communication between bms an multiplus.


>Also why have you limited inverter power? Again reset the GX and start from base, get it working then you can alter setting.

i limited it for testing. I can again reset the gx device (in a few hours when i am at home)

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Alexandra avatar image Alexandra ♦ nemo5 commented ·

If the battery bank is higher that the inverter is programmed then expect a problem. Usually a higher than programmed battery voltage would indicate a problem in the system so trigger a no ess state. (Although what kind of voltage difference is there here?)

Passthrough happens for a number of reasons besides the meter issue the other common one is a battery not being allowed to charge or discharge.

Take off the limit inverter power and limit the actual load on the inverter. That makes a bit more sense that the way you are trying to do it.

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nemo5 avatar image nemo5 Alexandra ♦ commented ·

Hi,

I have no set everything to default. Aborbtion and float voltage is configured higher than actual battery voltage, this should not be a problem any more.

In the VenusOS i have changed: Netwerk settings zu fix'd IP and Gridmeter to "Inverter/Charger" to exclude grid meter problems.

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MP is still in passthrou.

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nemo5 avatar image nemo5 nemo5 commented ·

attached is my multiplus config

Multiplus_20240803_0934.rvsc.zip

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Maybe the problem is related to my other promblen. ESS Assistant is not found with 3.40 but with 3.20.

https://community.victronenergy.com/questions/317132/ess-assisten-not-whown.html

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nemo5 avatar image nemo5 commented ·

GX is 3.20


Mulitplus is 510

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The real problem is probably not ESS but passthru mode. On startup the inverter led is on. After exactly 1 Minute Charge led goes on and inverter off.


I set back the multiplus (startet with default settings in VEConfigure and sent the setting)-> no change. Afterward set back venusos with https://www.victronenergy.com/media/pg/Venus_GX/en/reset-to-factory-defaults-and-venus-os-reinstall.html -> no change.


I now tested:

- https://www.victronenergy.com/media/pg/Energy_Storage_System/en/faq.html#UUID-169dbd85-4b6f-814b-33c2-9fa77a6973d2_section-idm4628123204859232885885561444

Q4.1 : ESS → Control without grid-meter setting -> did not change anything

Q4.2: Systems with a canbus-connected lithium system: I have no communication with bms.

Q4.3: When charging the battery is not allowed -> charging is allowed

Q4.4: When discharge is not allowed -and- loads on AC-Out force the Multi/Quattro to exceed the AC input current limit. -> is allowed. Battery voltage is higher than absobtion.

Q4.5 A grid code is in use that requires the enabling of battery discharging by aux-inputs. -> Austria Grid Code default uses AUX input. I disabled AUX input for testing -> no change

Q4.6: LOM: disabled for testing -> no change


So no solution found. Currently I have no idea what else I should test.

My ideas:

- I have no pv inverter configured, solaredge is not supported yet. I don't think this could lead to any problems.

- as inverter ist starting when AC-In fuse switched off I think inverter is working correct.


I think I now read all threads about passthru but did not find a solution.

Is it possible that someone from the support team can help? Are same dbus values of interesst?

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nemo5 avatar image nemo5 commented ·

I wrote a short script to test mode 3. https://github.com/schenlap/victron_ess3_test

Result is the same, no feed-in. Interessting is that register /Hub4/L1/AcPowerSetpoint does not get reset after 1 Minute. Strange...


18:25:36 INFO  test_ess3:75 Verbindung zu 10.0.0.202:502 hergestellt.
18:25:36 INFO  test_ess3:45 Aktueller Wert von Register ESS MODE 2902: 3.0
18:25:36 INFO  test_ess3:45 Aktueller Wert von Register MAX DISCHARGE POWER 2704: 400.0
18:25:36 INFO  test_ess3:45 Aktueller Wert von Register MAX FEEDIN POWER 2706: 500.0
18:25:36 INFO  test_ess3:45 Aktueller Wert von Register SWITCH POSITION 33: 3.0
18:25:36 INFO  test_ess3:45 Aktueller Wert von Register AC POWER 37: 30.0
18:25:36 INFO  test_ess3:45 Aktueller Wert von Register DISABLE CHARGE FLAG 38: 0.0
18:25:36 INFO  test_ess3:45 Aktueller Wert von Register DISABLE FEEDINFLAG 39: 0.0
18:25:36 INFO  test_ess3:57 Register AC POWER 37 erfolgreich auf 50 gesetzt
18:25:37 INFO  test_ess3:45 Aktueller Wert von Register AC POWER 37: 50.0
18:25:37 INFO  test_ess3:85 Waiting 65 seconds to reset register
18:26:42 INFO  test_ess3:45 Aktueller Wert von Register AC POWER 37: 50
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I did a FW update on my MPII last week and the raspberry pi that controls it. On boot, it went into passthrough. I thought maybe config had gone, so I tried to reload ESS via VRM. It was then that I realised that my pi had not connected to the Internet. Once I'd fixed that and I could see the installation in VRM it changed to bulk. I didn't need to reload any config.

I run ESS with the MP charging the battery, no PV configured and an external CT. Grid is set to France. Your description of startup matches mine. At some point, early on I think, there is a loud rattle as the relays do a test. Are you showing ESS relay test completed under advanced

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nemo5 avatar image nemo5 commented ·

Hi,

yes, ESS relay test is completed. What version of MP2 and GX are you using?

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