Enphase PV system doesn't deliver power when offgrid

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m66b asked Mar 12, '24

Enphase PV system doesn't deliver power when offgrid

System: Multiplus II GX 5000/70 + Pylontech US5000

Software: v3.30~13, ESS assistant configured (see screenshots below)

Connections: grid on AC IN1, consumers and Enphase system on AC OUT1

Grid: the Netherlands (EN50549-1:2019), configured in both Enphase/Victron

As soon as the grid is disconnected, the Enphase system stops delivering power. It tries to send a bit of power (50-100 Watt, see the graph below), but it turns off each time.

The graph starts and ends with grid power on. The test was deliberately with only some solar power (~300 Watt), but with more solar power, the same problem occurs.

The Enphase system is fed with 230 Volt and 50 Hz by the Victron (measured with an SDM120 energy meter), so everything is seemingly fine.

It was suggested to change the grid profile of the Enphase system to one of the GB profiles because it was said to tolerate a less perfect sine wave, but that didn't help to solve the problem.

I've checked the settings already many times, but so far, I haven't found a solution. So, any suggestions are welcome.

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Answer 1 · 2024-03-12T10:53:01Z

nickdb answered · Mar 12 at 10:53 AM

Have you tried with production GX code and not the beta?

I would eliminate that as contributing.

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m66b commented · Mar 12 at 04:43 PM

I switched to the beta hoping this problem would be solved.

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Answer 2 · 2024-03-12T11:04:28Z

Michelle Konzack answered · Mar 12 at 11:04 AM

Are you sure, you want to restart the PV charging if the DC Voltage goes under 40V?

Looks VERY LOW

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m66b commented · Mar 12 at 04:44 PM

That's in the case of overvoltage only, as far as I understand, but I'll try other values anyway. Thanks for the suggestion.

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m66b m66b commented · Mar 13 at 10:16 AM

I've tried 51 volt, but it doesn't resolve the problem, unfortunately.

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Answer 3 · 2024-03-12T11:48:22Z

juergenal answered · Mar 12 at 11:48 AM

You have the wrong Setup parameters in the frequencies shifting. I have at the moment nothing for netherland but look at the other table setup for other countries and change you frequencies.

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m66b commented · Mar 12 at 04:45 PM

The frequencies are correct for the Netherlands, and in fact, I tried to change the frequencies already (not all combinations).

The frequency fed to Enphase is 50 Hz, though.

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Answer 4 · 2024-03-12T12:47:52Z

Duivert NL answered · Mar 12 at 12:47 PM

hi, im in the netherlands to, no experience with enphase but growatt

i think your using the wrong gridcode, should be:

see also:https://community.victronenergy.com/questions/34659/ess-not-possible-in-the-netherlands-at-least-not-w.html

not related but also 1 us5000 on a multiplus 5000 is to small, you need at least 2

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m66b commented · Mar 12 at 04:54 PM

The correct grid code for the Netherlands is EN50549-1. It wouldn't be compliant to use something else, but I can try, of course.

About the battery: this is a small system to start with. It will probably be extended if everything works as expected.

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Duivert NL m66b commented · Mar 12 at 09:23 PM

Hi, yes you are indeed right about the grid code!

been a while since i set my 3phase system up, german gridcode was the advice to use back then

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m66b Duivert NL commented · Mar 13 at 10:17 AM

I've tried the Germany grid code, but it doesn't change anything, unfortunately.

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m66b Duivert NL commented · Mar 13 at 10:20 AM

I would appreciate it if you contacted me via marcel<at>bokhorst<punt>eu and sent me your VEConfigure file, so I can compare settings.

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Duivert NL m66b commented · Mar 25 at 09:07 AM

hi, i dont have the growatt anymore, but i have the old config file (single phase ess)

i will send it to you

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Answer 5 · 2024-03-12T14:41:44Z

ton-gans answered · Mar 12 at 02:41 PM

Hoi, I'm in the Netherlands and have Enphase on AC-out. The frquencies I use are: 50.20, 50.80 and 51.50 Hz. Grid code Europa. See attached documentEnphase Energy - Enlighten _ EN 50549-1_2019 RfG E02 Netherlands gridprofiel.pdf

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m66b commented · Mar 12 at 04:55 PM

I'm certainly going to try this, thanks, but when will there be sun again? ;-)

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m66b m66b commented · Mar 13 at 10:19 AM

I've changed the frequencies as suggested, but it doesn't help unfortunately.

I would appreciate it if you contacted me via marcel<at>bokhorst<punt>eu and sent me your VEConfigure file, so I can compare settings.

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Answer 6 · 2024-03-25T08:41:58Z

m66b answered · Mar 25 at 08:41 AM

Also tried without success:

Disabled Loss-Of-Main detection via VEConfigure
Switched to no export grid profile via Enphase Enlighten

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Answer 7 · 2024-03-25T10:38:12Z

Duivert NL answered · Mar 25 at 10:38 AM

hi maybe this document can help a bit? (its in dutch)

https://enphase.com/nl-nl/download/ac-koppeling-enphase-iq-microinverters-met-victron-accu-omvormers-voor-residentiele

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Answer 8 · 2024-04-07T06:46:17Z

m66b answered · Apr 07 at 06:46 AM

Miraculously, it started working, with the same setup, although a ferrite ring was added. Perhaps due to a firmware update of the microinverters?

Maybe this is useful to somebody else:

Enphase:

Non metered gateway (firmware: D7.6.358)
8x IQ8PLUS-72-M-INT
Grid Profile: EN 50549-1:2019 RfG E02 Netherlands
Firmware version: 521-00005-r06-v08.05.02

Victron:

1x MultiPlus-II GX 48/5000/70-50 230V
Grid Profile: Europe EN50549-1:2019 + LOM B
ESS frequencies: 50.20, 50.80, 51.50 (works too with 50.20, 51.20, 51.50)
Firmware version: v3.40~2

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Duivert NL commented · Apr 07 at 07:21 AM

Good to hear its working now! Hopefully no other issue’s because V3.40~2 is still a beta

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Answer 9 · 2024-06-20T05:24:48Z

mfred68 answered · Jun 20 at 05:24 AM

Can you please explain what you did to get it working? I'm having the same problem, I'm in the uk.

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