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Michael Schmidt asked

Using EM24 and Fronius Smartmeter together

Hello im Using 2 Fronius Inverters in grid mode (not microgrid) and a multiplus II 48/3000.

Everything is fine but i cant use dynamic feed in (70% od installed pv generator power) without using a fronius smartmeter.


is it possible to use both of the smartmeters?

The em24 connected to venus and the fronius to fronius.


Best regards

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sean answered ·

I had a Fronius Primo and EM24 system installed prior to installing the Victron ESS, which required the ET112 - they work very well, but in hindsight I do wonder if the systems could share the data coming from just a single smart meter, negating the apparent requirement to have both installed.

So the short answer to your question is yes it is possible to use both smart meters - but I'd like confirmation as to if both are actually required.


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hansbaer avatar image hansbaer commented ·

Hey Sean,

any new information about this topic above?

I´m currently in the same situation. I have a fronius symo and fronius smart meter and I cannot believe, that I need an additional SM, even though the Fronius SM is providing modbus TCP or RTU..

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mvader (Victron Energy) answered ·

Hi,

Having both the victron and the fronius take data from one meter is not possible.

Also, Our documentation says that its not possible to use both the victron meter and fronius smart meter in one system: both systems will then be regulating on the same point, leading to oscillations and other instability.


However, after re-thinking that, you might be fine as long as you don’t configure the Fronius to zero feedin. Not on the GX device and also not by itself. Ie setting it to 70% export might work.

Note that this is just an idea, its not been tested at all in r&d.



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sean avatar image sean commented ·

Isn't the above comment somewhat contradictory ?

By stating you cant have data sharing from a single meter implies the need for both.

But apparently your documentation states you cant have both meters on one system, implying the use of just a single meter ?

I'm very happy with how my system works, but could not find any UK based installer with any experience of installing a Fronius/MPII ESS when I sought clarification regarding the need for one or both meters - and the official documentation of such an installation is somewhat limited in terms of detail (I have no issue with that), so certain aspects of my configuration were based on perturb and observe.

I do not export limit now, but did for a few weeks initially and the system performed as expected - sharing usage data from just a single smart meter would ""nice""


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bambo avatar image bambo commented ·
I have two fronius converters, one primo, one galvo. The galvo always fires all he has to the grid.

The primo is coupled with a fronius smart meter and limits itself to 70% (of both inverters primo and galvo max installed kwp) exporting to the grid.

grid --- fronius sm -----------------------------load

| | |

primo | |

galvo |

MPII ----- battery

When i want to install a multiplus II in on-grid mode to only charge battery if energy flows to the grid and discharge battery if energy is coming from the grid and i dont want to use fancy island or off-grid or battery-charge-from-grid.

I dont get the point, why i have to use a second smart meter. I simply don't get it.

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