Any news on larger Quattro-II models? I noticed Multiplus-II is available in 3, 5, 8, 10kVA, but the 48v Quattro-II in just 5kVA.
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Any news on larger Quattro-II models? I noticed Multiplus-II is available in 3, 5, 8, 10kVA, but the 48v Quattro-II in just 5kVA.
Any updates on this? Maybe they'll be added to the Q4 pricelist
It's done when it's done. It will be announced or added to the pricelist if it is ready.
Maybe due to the high demand on the MultiPlus-II the production of that has a higher priority right now.
If you need a 15kVA Quattro now (or ASAP) just use the "old" one.
The MP II (and Quattro II) 48/10000 have several big advantages over the older models; one is lower idle power consumption (38W vs. 60W -- and multiple people have reported up to 100W, including my boatbuilder), a second is much better derating with temperature (6000W vs. 4500W when hot IIRC).
Having also seen what is inside, the "old" models look less easy to maintain and -- from the POV of an electronic engineer -- have a massive and complex controller PCB built from older technology components, compared to the new models with a tiny modern PCB and maybe 10x fewer components on it -- see attached photos...
I would expect this be more reliable and have better long-term support, I know how difficult it is to maintain/stock obsolete components like the big DIP ICs on the old PCB, and I would expect at some time in the future that this would become an issue for the older models -- and I want a power system that is as future-proof as possible. This is in no way disparaging Victron or their products, but I know only too well how the electronics supply chain works, I see supply issues -- especially for older components -- all the time... ;-)
So personally speaking I would very much prefer to use a Quattro II 48/10000 not a Quattro. If this isn't available in the near future (e.g. 2023Q1) then I'd rather use an MP II 48/10000 with an external changeover switch/relay to swap between generator and shoreline than a Quattro 48/10000, though this is not the solution I'd really prefer.
I know that Victron policy is "never announce anything until it's on the price list", but this is not helpful for customers trying to plan what to do in the near future, because the original and new models are a completely different size and shape and this means how the electrical system is installed (this is on a boat) is very different, so it's impossible to switch at short notice if the Quattro II suddenly pops up on the next price list... :-(
I also want to ensure I can optimize the model longevity of my future scheme, but I see the new vs old discussion differently.
There is an inability of newer models to parallel because of apparent hardware issues.The ability to parallel is a massive Victron selling point.
To me, this means either the older ( paralleling) model will be with us for a fair time to come, or the newer model's hardware will be updated soon.
The older model also has a proven track record.
So I see things favouring the older model.
Any status updates on this?
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