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Nat Morris asked

Quattro-II 48v 8000, 10000, 15000 models coming?

Any news on larger Quattro-II models? I noticed Multiplus-II is available in 3, 5, 8, 10kVA, but the 48v Quattro-II in just 5kVA.

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iand answered ·

Undoubtedly they will be coming, but Victron always refuse to say when until they appear in the "official" price list as new models. The 2022Q3 list should be out shortly...

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iand answered ·

Also there might be a delay because the current model of MP II 8/10kVA can't be paralleled (5kVA can) and I expect this feature is essential for Quattros, so they'll need new hardware.

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iand answered ·

Q3 pricelist now has MPII available in 15kVA, but Quattro II still only 5kVA. Presumably the need for parallel operation is delaying the bigger Quattro II...

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cruisey1987 answered ·

Any updates on this? Maybe they'll be added to the Q4 pricelist

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iand avatar image iand commented ·
I'm waiting too -- but my boat builder (who you'd have thought might have some advance notice, since he uses a lot of their gear) hasn't heard anything... :-(


Going by past dates, the Q4 pricelist will probably be out early next month.


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iand answered ·

2022Q4 pricelist is out, MP II 48/15000 due in November but still no bigger Quattro II... :-(

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Matthias Lange - DE answered ·

It's done when it's done. It will be announced or added to the pricelist if it is ready.

Maybe due to the high demand on the MultiPlus-II the production of that has a higher priority right now.

If you need a 15kVA Quattro now (or ASAP) just use the "old" one.

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The MP II (and Quattro II) 48/10000 have several big advantages over the older models; one is lower idle power consumption (38W vs. 60W -- and multiple people have reported up to 100W, including my boatbuilder), a second is much better derating with temperature (6000W vs. 4500W when hot IIRC).

Having also seen what is inside, the "old" models look less easy to maintain and -- from the POV of an electronic engineer -- have a massive and complex controller PCB built from older technology components, compared to the new models with a tiny modern PCB and maybe 10x fewer components on it -- see attached photos...


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I would expect this be more reliable and have better long-term support, I know how difficult it is to maintain/stock obsolete components like the big DIP ICs on the old PCB, and I would expect at some time in the future that this would become an issue for the older models -- and I want a power system that is as future-proof as possible. This is in no way disparaging Victron or their products, but I know only too well how the electronics supply chain works, I see supply issues -- especially for older components -- all the time... ;-)

So personally speaking I would very much prefer to use a Quattro II 48/10000 not a Quattro. If this isn't available in the near future (e.g. 2023Q1) then I'd rather use an MP II 48/10000 with an external changeover switch/relay to swap between generator and shoreline than a Quattro 48/10000, though this is not the solution I'd really prefer.

I know that Victron policy is "never announce anything until it's on the price list", but this is not helpful for customers trying to plan what to do in the near future, because the original and new models are a completely different size and shape and this means how the electrical system is installed (this is on a boat) is very different, so it's impossible to switch at short notice if the Quattro II suddenly pops up on the next price list... :-(

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janvi answered ·

Sorry for asking in this thread over a full year of age. I am also interested in 10/15kVA Quattro II. Parallel feature required, any certificates are a dont care. Maybe something is already seen on the radar screen in the meanwhile ?


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iand answered ·

Still no sign of the bigger Quattro IIs, I got my boatbuilder (qualified Victron installer) to check. Had to go with Quattro 48/10000, couldn't fit two Quattro II 48/5000 in... :-(

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Juha Tuomala answered ·

Any status updates on this?

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