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I have a multiplus 12/3000/120. The manual states on page 9
"The MultiPlus is provided with a ground relay (relay H, see appendix B) that automatically connects the Neutral output to the chassis if no external AC supply is available."
If you examine the appendix B of that same manual it shows a relay action on "PE" of AC Out, L of AC Out 2, and the input L,N. It does not represent what is stated on page 9 where the AC Out N is connected to the chassis. Can you please clarify?
Safety ground (aka PE) must be bonded to Neutral once in the electrical system. This is generally at the service entrance. The purpose of this connection is to divert any fault current safely to the electrical return and trip the associated breaker. Otherwise, hazardous voltages may appear on equipment chassis.
When the Multi is inverter mode, the shore power connection (line and neutral) are disconnected, so there is no fault current path through the service entrance. When the AC input relay opens, the internal ground relay closes providing a neutral-safety ground connection. All AC output neutrals are connected together inside the Multi (or Quatro), so all AC output neutrals are also connected to safety ground.
Multi/Quatro programming allows the input relay to be disabled in special situations where the safety-neutral connection is made elsewhere. But generally, the ground relay should not be disabled.
Just to seek clarification: then when in inverter mode, safety ground connection gets made inside the chassis and then via the ground connection on the outside of the chassis which is connected to ground at the main panel?
The Neutral is common inside the Mutli. The relay will connect the PE and N lines. Normally this is done at the DB board, but when disconnected for RCDs to work the bond needs to be remade.
The block diagram is just that a diagram not a physical representation of where the components actually are.
The second relay on the AC2 out L is a programmable relay for connecting or disconnecting loads based on load or SOC or Grid input, or whatever conditions you want. Can be programmed in the assistants tab in Ve Config.
The reference from the page 9 to relay marked H, H is not marked. However the connection is there in appendix B, the ground neutral connection in the block diagram as described for the reasons described above.
https://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/Manual-MultiPlus-3k-120V-(firmware-xxxx4xx)-EN.pdf diagram taken from this document, Appendix B.
So does the case connection wire gauge need to match the battery wire gauge or the AC wire gauge?
The AC wire gauge.
It is neutral connected, neutral is ac. When you see the unit terminals it will be clear what needs to be done, they are marked.
The internal relay that connects the output N to PE only closes when the unit is in the inverting mode. With no power to the unit there should be no contenuity between either N and PE.
You will however see low resistance between N and L on the output because the transformer is connected directly to those terminals.
No continuity between any of the input terminals should exist with power off and everything disconnected.
Hope that helps
