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MPPT Controllers not communicating

I have

VictronConnect APP on IOS 13.5.1
Two MPPT75/15 Controllers V1.50
Two VE.Direct Bluetooth Smart dongles Rev2, V2.23 Bootloader V1.10

Since the last update one, and sometimes both Controllers appear dimmed
in the Victron Connect App. When clicking on the controller icon, I get an error
message that a connection would not be possible because of an other Bluetooth
device already connected to the controller. When in this state, the blue LED on the dongle
is steady lit, i.e. does not blink anaymore.

Remedial action is to pull the plug of the dongle and re-insert the plug.
Then the controller is accessible again for some hours until the same error reappears again.
The controllers have the BT paring code changed and there is definitely no othe connection.

Any clue ?




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Thiemo van Engelen (Victron Energy staff) answered ·

The fact that the blue led is steady lit means that the at least dongle thinks that there is a bluetooth connection. This could also be with your phone, without VictronConnect knowing about this. To determine if this is the case or if there is some other device connecting to the dongle, can you please toggle airplane mode on your phone when you find the dongles in the unconnectable state?

If it is indeed your phone that is connected, then this should terminate that connection. In this case, there might be other apps on the phone that make a bluetooth connection?

If this does not terminate the connection, there is a different device connecting with the dongle. Unfortunately, any device can make a connection. The PIN code is only needed for actual data exchange and encryption of data exchange, not for making a connection.

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rpato answered ·

Perfect! This does not help a lot. The system worked fine for almost two years until the last updates. I cannot exclude that other people around me try to connect to my devices and thereafter block the system. Now, the app is unusable. If any app can make a connection and block the devices, you should go back to the drawing board.






















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rpato answered ·

Ok, and what is the solution? Switching off Bluetooth or toggling into airplane mode does not help. Are you really telling me, that customers have to live with this problem?














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Thiemo van Engelen (Victron Energy staff) answered ·

If toggling airplane mode does not help in the sense that the blue dongle leds do not starts blinking when airplane mode is enabled, it means that your phone does not seem to be connected to the dongles and apparently it is some other device that is connected. Unfortunately there is nothing I can think of now that will help you.


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rpato answered ·

Well, once again, I use the dongles since three years now and I have never seen this problem before. It appeared after the last update of the dongle software. I have done some tests with a second Iphone and a Android device using a wrong passcode. Of course, while the conection is active, the dongle is blocked. But after closing Victronconnect the dongle is available again.

Also, when disabling BT on all devices, the dongle stays in its blocked state.

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rpato answered ·

So, after about 3 hours the dongles are accessible again. Before this the Android app crashed. A report was sent

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Just to get things clear:

Was the dongle suddenly accessible after 3 hours and thus this is the opposite of what you describe in your original question where after a certain amount of time, the dongles are not accessible anymore?

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rpato answered ·

In order to get the crashing Android app to work again, I had to delete and re-install the app to get it working. Interesting was, that one of the dongles after that also lost connection to the VESmart network.

Victron, would it not be required to look at your last updates?? Or is this state if the art?


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Question about "Interesting was, that one of the dongles after that also lost connection to the VESmart network."

Do you mean that the setting in the dongle was gone and it no longer had a network configured or that it did not see other devices?

And just out of curiosity: Do you also have a BMV, SmartShunt or Smart Battery Sense? Otherwise, there is no use in enabling VeSmart networking because external dongles are only used for V/T sense and a BMV, SmartShunt or Smart Battery Sense is needed for that. If you do not have one of those, does it help if you disable VeSmart networking?

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lowoncash answered ·

This is the reason once a system is up and running I never (down) upgrade!

Regards

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dwmarine answered ·

From memory, the Victron VE Direct dongles had an early and a late version.

One version has the part number ending in 011 and the other ends in 010.

The older version (cant recall which one) will not work with some newer devices for smart networking.

Hence I had to purchase another dongle. I wonder if your dongles are different part numbers?

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