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Charging on Quattro in dependence of SoC

I want to stop charging if Soc is 80% and restart charging im Soc is less than 40%.

I have a Quattro, CCGX und an Ve.Bus BMS (REC-A)

Where can I set this parameter ?

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Mark answered ·

There is no direct way to achieve this, but it should still be possible without too much trouble...

You could use the CCGX generator start/stop functionality with SOC% set as the only trigger condition.

https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:generator_start_stop

Then physically wire the CCGX relay to one of the 'Aux In' terminals on Quattro unit and use the '2 signal BMS' assistant to enable/disable the charger totally or even force it into float phase >80% SOC.

https://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/Manual-Connecting-other-lithium-battery-systems-to-Multis-and-Quattros-EN.pdf

Also see my answer to your other related question for more information on using assistants.

https://community.victronenergy.com/questions/40929/can-i-disable-charging-on-my-quattro-with-a-button.html

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wolle4000 avatar image wolle4000 commented ·

Perfect...I think it is really easy with the Generator start/stop functionality to programm the SoC (via Aux-In 1 and CCGX relais).

And for start/stop charging I can use the current control assistant with the option to disable the charger at 0A charge current enabled and both trigger voltages set to ~2v.

(via Aux In 2 , 12V on /off via a Push Button)



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Mark avatar image Mark ♦♦ wolle4000 commented ·

Good to hear that you should be sorted with the recommendations - let us know how it all goes once you set it up.

PS. The Multiplus/Quattro Aux In terminals have the input side at 5v with a pull up resistor and the other side bonded to ground. To use the charge current assistant you just need to open or close the circuit with a switch or relay. Don't go putting 12v into it.

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wolle4000 avatar image wolle4000 Mark ♦♦ commented ·

that is important to know...so I can only close the contacts at AUX1-IN (potential free)?


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wolle4000 avatar image wolle4000 Mark ♦♦ commented ·

One more questions:

Is it correct, that I first have to programm the CCGX with all paramtaters when the internal relay should be on or off (in depedant of the SoC),

and in the second step I have to set the assisant (via '2 signal BMS Assisant) to tell the Quattro what to do when the relay is closed from the CCGX ?
At the beginning of the assisant I have 4 options to choose: (BMS have only one contact for Cell high, or the BMS have to contacts for Cell high/low). But the CCGX relais only has one status on or off ??


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Mark avatar image Mark ♦♦ wolle4000 commented ·

See my new answer, sorry my reply was too big to be posted as a comment in this thread.

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Mark answered ·

The generator start/stop relay logic cannot be inverted, so with a CCGX you need to work with the logic of Genset on = relay closed / Genset off = relay open. If using a Venus GX you have the open to use the NC relay contacts (instead of NO) to invert the operation.

To setup the generator start/stop logic;

1- Set the relay function to 'generator start/stop'


2- Enable 'Auto start functionality'


3- Under settings > Conditions select the desired trigger condition(s)


4- Enable the desired condition(s) and set the desired thresholds


To setup the 2 signal BMS assistant logic (to disable/enable the charger);

1- In the 'VEConfigure battery type selection' screen select the 1st option - 'Do not change battery type'


2- In the 'BMS options' screen select the 2nd option - 'The BMS has one contact which switches only on a high-cell condition'


3- In the ' Battery state input' screen select 'The battery is full when Auxiliary input 1 is open'


4- In the Action' screen select 'Disable charger (or force to float if desired) and do not adapt SOC when battery full'


5- Review the 'Information' summary screen to ensure the assistant is setup correctly


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wolle4000 avatar image wolle4000 commented ·

Thank you a lot!! With this instruction all is perspicuous.

I'm always fascinated by the incredible number of setting options in a VICTRON system :-)

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PeterM answered ·

Does this method also disable the programmed timed Absorbtion cycle ( typically 7 -1 4days ) that the Quattro has

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