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making use of programmable relays in ESS

Given medium size(?) installation:


3 x Quattro 5kVA in 3-phase configuration

2 x MPPT 250/85 - evidently DC coupled

1 x Fronius Symo - AC coupled

1 x Venus GX


on last count, the docs mention a total of 13 (2 x 1 of the MPPTs, 2 in the Venus GX and 9 in the Quattros) programmable relays, where the 9 (3 x 3) of the Quattros probably behave like just 3 (yes?) in sync.


I'm missing the relay functions in Venus and Quattros under ESS operation. There is docs for the MPPT relay functionality.


Ideally, I would like the Venus GX relays to indicate various "excess energy" states. I can get a "battery full", but on top of that I would need


* "MPPTs are (about to) being throttled"

* "Fronius is (about to) being throttled"


So this could trigger some consumers to shave off some of the excess energy. HowTo?

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usernamepasswordbs avatar image usernamepasswordbs commented ·
#Petajoule Did you get anywhere with "MPPTs are (about to) being throttled"?

Is it in the code somewhere?

Much appreciated if you can tell me.

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mihair answered ·

As far as I know, you can use either dbus or node-red

Personally I prefer to define a script using dbus and then to run it with crontab.

As an example of controlling relays:

#dbus -y com.victronenergy.system /Relay/1/State SetValue 1

Above command will set Relay1 ON (close contacts)

you can check if it is closed or not by issuing :

#dbus -y com.victronenergy.system /Relay/1/State GetValue

Please use dbus-spy to get all the paths for you script

As another example, here is a small script which I use to interrogate EM111 grid meter for TotalEnergy, L1 AC voltage and current:

#!/bin/bash

RE=`dbus -y com.victronenergy.grid.cgwacs_ttyUSB2_di32_mb1 /Ac/Energy/Reverse GetValue | awk '{printf("%d\n",$3 + 0.5);}'`

FE=`dbus -y com.victronenergy.grid.cgwacs_ttyUSB2_di32_mb1 /Ac/Energy/Forward GetValue | awk '{printf("%d\n",$3 + 0.5);}'`

TE=$(($FE+$RE))

echo Total Energy $TE kWh

ACC=`dbus -y com.victronenergy.grid.cgwacs_ttyUSB2_di32_mb1 /Ac/L1/Current GetValue | awk '{printf("%d\n",$3 + 0.5);}'`

echo Current $ACC A

VCC=`dbus -y com.victronenergy.grid.cgwacs_ttyUSB2_di32_mb1 /Ac/L1/Voltage GetValue | awk '{printf("%d\n",$3 + 0.5);}'`

echo Voltage $VCC V





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petajoule avatar image petajoule commented ·

Thx. It looks dbus is offering all the data necessary.

Unfortunately I seem to have trouble reading out any values:

root@ccgx:~# dbus -y com.victronenergy.system/Ac/ConsumptionOnOutput/L1/Power GetValue
root@ccgx:~# dbus -y com.victronenergy.system/Ac/ConsumptionOnOutput/L1/Power         
/
root@ccgx:~# 

And omitting -y is even more adventurous.

root@ccgx:~# dbus com.victronenergy.system/Ac/ConsumptionOnOutput/L1/Power GetValue
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/dbus", line 302, in <module>
    bus = dbus.SessionBus()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 211, in __new__
    mainloop=mainloop)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 100, in __new__
    bus = BusConnection.__new__(subclass, bus_type, mainloop=mainloop)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 122, in __new__
    bus = cls._new_for_bus(address_or_type, mainloop=mainloop)
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NotSupported: Using X11 for dbus-daemon autolaunch was disabled at compile time, set your DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS instead


Still sitting here on 2.33, but that shouldn't be the problem - should it?

I should mention that dbus-spy seems to work well, so it doesn't look like the system would be broken or something. Just the method getting info via shell doesn't work for me.


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petajoule answered ·
root@ccgx:~# dbus -y com.victronenergy.system /Ac/ConsumptionOnOutput/L1/Power GetValue
443

A space a day, keeps dbus at bay.

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mihair avatar image mihair commented ·

If you wanna get something like 433 W, then use GetText instead of GetValue

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petajoule answered ·

A few more questions remain:

How's the return value after a SetValue to be interpreted?

root@ccgx:~# dbus -y com.victronenergy.system /Relay/0/State SetValue 1
0

Or here:

root@ccgx:~# dbus -y com.victronenergy.system /Buzzer/State SetValue 1
2

And how can one make sure the value set also remains set?

e.g. setting that buzzer, it blips shortly and is then off again. Haven't checked the relay, but I assume that wil lbehave the same?

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