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SmartShunt Resets to 100% - Need help with settings

Hi! I know this has been asked a few times but I can't quite seem to get the settings right and am hoping someone here can take pity on me.

My project is a full-sized R2-D2 astromech droid with a 24v 30Ah LiFePO4 battery. At the recommendation of a fellow builder, I bought and installed the Victron SmartShunt to monitor battery life remotely.

Unfortunately, as has happened to several others here, the SoC seems to reset to 100% after usage. I took R2 to an event a few days ago and watched the SoC drop steadily as the day wore on - all good. But by the time I got him back home, the SoC had returned to 100%. I DID disconnect the battery for transport, but I HAVE NOT charged him back up yet.

I'm sure I have a setting wrong but, being new to the world of robotics and batteries, I'm not sure which. I've included screenshots of the settings and the SoC dropping and increasing, below.

The battery is the Bioenno Power BLF-2430A.

Any help truly appreciated!


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pwfarnell answered ·

When the battery voltage is above 26.4V and the charge current is below 0.3A (1% of 30) the unit will set to 100%, 26.4 is a pretty well discharged state so as soon as you reconnect it meets the reset to 100% criteria. You need to have the charged voltage setting above 100% charged ideally 0.2V below the voltage you charge at, say 28.2V if you charge at 28.4V.

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chrigu avatar image chrigu commented ·

Wheres the 0.2V below charge voltage from, is this just experience?

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derrick thomas avatar image derrick thomas chrigu commented ·
Yes this is from experience. The manual in section 7.2.2 explains this as being relative to the float voltage (as of revision 13 dated 2/2024), but in my opinion this should be changed. There are many many posts about this very topic. Having installed several systems and going from my own experience as well as others, this is one instance where you should NOT follow the manual.


Let the flaming begin!

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chrigu avatar image chrigu derrick thomas commented ·
In reality, those 0.2V go by quickly when charging, so if SOC is set to 100% a few minutes sooner or later doesnt really make a difference. At least to me
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derrick thomas answered ·

Charged voltage is too low. Should be about .2 volts below bulk/absorption voltage which should be somewhere between 28.4 to 28.8 for most 8s 24v Lifepo4. Check the battery manufacturer specs for your battery.

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chrigu answered ·

Youve set 26.4V as the charged voltage. Thats a relatively low voltage for that. SO anytime the battery recovers above that for three minutes (charged detection time) the shunt will reset to 100% SOC

If you are charging as per the datasheet to 29.2V, then i would set the charged voltage to that.

Personally, i would set 28.4V as the charging voltage, thats 3.55V per cell. Theres little energy left to charge from 28.4V to 29.2V but you probably gain battery lifetime. Only question is the balancing, its possible that it only starts above 3.6V per cell, but the datasheet doesnt answer this sadly.

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highfalutintodd answered ·

Thank you all for your responses. If I'm reading everything correctly, it sounds like I should set Charged Voltage in SmartShunt settings to 29.0V since my battery's charging voltage is listed at 29.2V.

I'll do this, test it out, and report back.

Thank you, all!

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What are you using to charge the battery? This matters when adjusting the shunt settings.
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highfalutintodd avatar image highfalutintodd derrick thomas commented ·

This:

https://www.bioennopower.com/products/29-2v-10a-ac-to-dc-charger-anderson-for-24v-lifepo4-batteries-bpc-2410a?variant=8152938610789

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