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Victron Lithium Battery With ESS not cycling fully

Hello dear team ! I've an installation at home with MutiPlus 48/5000, Fronius Primo on AC Out, Color Control GX, Ve.Bus BMS and Battery Lithium CB 300AH Victron.
The system is functionning with the ESS Mode and with not BatteryLife.
All is functionnig good but impossible to go down of 60% SOC and 51V approximatively even if i put 20% of discharge max on VEGX / ESS/ Max Discharge.
All firmware are the last. And in programmation i make the ESS standard options with lithium Battery Victron.
Can you help me ? Do you have a programmation more advanced than could use ?
Best regards

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Andrew Burnett avatar image Andrew Burnett commented ·

Hi i have a similar issue, multiplus 2, LG Chem 6.5 with colour control, my solar is a parallel system. System has been in a week, working well, setup for optimised with battery life, active SOC is 15% however it's been cutting off at about 40% capacity remaining, today at 47%.

The battery is getting a good charge every night via scheduled charge to 95%, hence the active SOC is staying low but i'm not getting close to the 15%.

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wkirby answered ·

What are your "Sustain Voltage" and "Dynamic Cut-off" settings for ESS Assistant?

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Andrew Burnett avatar image Andrew Burnett commented ·

I'm thinking my system needs a tweak around these values as per:

https://www.victronenergy.com/live/doku.php?id=battery_compatibility%3Alg_chem_resu&do=export_pdf

Do you know if there a way of accessing the assistant via a com port without having to buy a Victron MK3 USB converter?

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Andrew Burnett avatar image Andrew Burnett commented ·

I have the same issue and i think you are right with your suggestions to what it causing this issue, i have commented on another thread: https://community.victronenergy.com/questions/2643/imposible-to-make-soc-lower-with-ess.html

As per the Victron Doc for LG Chem and Multiplus i have my Sustain Voltage set to 50V, however in the same doc it tells you not to change the Dynamic Cut-off values/curve, nor change the restart value. However i think it's these dynamic cut off values that are cutting in before the sustain voltage and or the SOC limit. Thus significant charge is being unused.

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andre avatar image andre commented ·

I have same set-up with Pylontech batteries except I selected Optimised (with battery life) and batteries are only charged by Solar.

I have same limit imposed on selected Minimum SOC (set at= 25%) by the system determined Active SOC limit.

Active SOC limit is lower when fully charged in day (55%) and higher when not fully charged (60 to 65%). This effectively ensures batteries charged, by Solar to 50 V at least once per day!

I suspect this will change when I add 3 Kw solar inverter - next week or when better weather!

Very clever algorithms for Self-Consumption - with battery life!

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andre answered ·

@k2aab Ha! I am in Africa, so much sun its scary!
If you discharge batteries to 40 % as opposed to 20 %, I suspect they will live longer.
Here, we have no differential tariff for peak & off peak and only get half of what we pay when legally feed into grid. You are tied to ESS because of your battery type.
My Active SOC is decreasing by 5 % each day as I more effectively charge batteries from sun.
Explained here: https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ess:design-installation-manual?s=ess#batterylife

I am new to Lithium batteries but suspect that you may need longer charge period (high V but low A) to get batteries to real 98 % charge and this may allow then discharging to 20%.

Instantaneous (calculated) SOC maybe somewhat different to actual chemical energy available in battery. You push batteries hard they may die young.

What is odd about the original question is that With battery life apparently not enabled!

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