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Lost Orange PV tile and Energy Meter Role stuck on unknown

Over the last few weeks my CCGX has been displaying inaccurate loads. It always used to look like this.

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But now the multiplus has been shown as passthru and the orange PV inverter tile has disappeared. img-4739.jpeg

Rebooting the CCGX cured it.
This happened a few times.
After doing this on 3 or more occasions I updated the CCGX firmware.
It now looks like this and rebooting does not recover my PV tile any more.
The data is clearly incorrect too.

ccgx1-screenshot-2024-05-16-175952.jpg


If I look at my EM24 energy meter settings the role is unknown.

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If I change it to grid meter or PV Inverter in reverts back to unknown.

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PV system, generation meter and immersun unit are working correctly.
Victron system does not seem to recognise energy flow any more.

USB dongle in CCGX unit from EM24 is flashing red and green


Now at a loss what to do.

Any thoughts?

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Duivert NL avatar image Duivert NL commented ·
Hi,


you could download the carlo gavazzi UCS software and connect the em24 with the victron usb converter to your computer to see if it will communicate,


if that works check if it is on the right adress (1 or 2)
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Alistair Warburton answered ·

It looks like a Modbus coms issue...

Have a look at the Modbus baud rate and unit address in the meter and make sure the settings match in the CCGX, if they don't correct the settings so that they do, preferably in the CCGX, because it is the more flexible of the two, but provided both ends match it doesn't actually matter which you change.

Now check/note/backup all your system settings, preferably using VE Configure.

Power cycle the EM24

When you have done all that, run a 'system redetect' on the on the CCGX.

Set the meter role you need and see if it keeps that role, if it doesn't you probably have a physical problem either with the dongle or the meter.

Lastly... Open two VE Configure instances, one to show you the backup, and the second, connected, that you will use to download, manually alter, and then upload any/all settings that are not correct.

doing this with the inverter off is a good idea.

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janefinch avatar image janefinch commented ·
Unfortunately, I can't see any settings of baud rate in the CCGX or any way to alter them.

Also I don't have VE Configure

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Alexandra answered ·

@Janefinch

There is also the possibility that the CCGX is having age related issues.

It may be time for an upgrade.

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Alistair Warburton answered ·

It wouldn't be hard to test the meter. plug the USB/RS485 into a computer and run a Modbus test program. Many are quite expensive but Schneider do a reasonable one, free, that can handle single and spanned requests on all typical Fc's.

I do not know about the CG EM24 specifically, but its bigger relatives , EM 26-96 for example, will only accept a query for a limited number of registers, 12 I think, so 24 bytes, in a single read.

The docs are easily to find and download from CG, and pretty well laid out in my experience. The CG versions of protocol docs 'may' be easier to use, if testing outside a Victron ecosystem, I cant comment on what Victron distribute info wise but the CG versions are more than adequate when looking at come in general.

I used to use them, EM26-96, extensively because the MID version was relatively inexpensive and capable, but I generally go with ND meters now, for the same/similar reasons.

Looking at the CG website it appears the range has expended considerably, since I last checked, with far more Modbus TCP offerings, so I am probably a bit out of date, in many ways:-)


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