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mvader (Victron Energy) asked Nov 21, '23

Venus OS v3.20~33 available for testing

2023-12-16: Discussion continues in a new thread, for v3.20~34.

2023-12-07: Venus OS v3.20 beta series are available again, v3.20~33 for now.
2023-12-02: The here announced beta versions are (temporarily) no longer available for download, in favour of v3.13 beta testing.
2023-11-23: Venus OS v3.20~30 available.

Good day!

Its time to officially announce our new UI design here on Community! Before getting into the normal details of Venus OS beta versions, lets first have a few screenshots of the new UI.

There is a new page, called Brief:

The button on the upper right opens and closes a side pane for it:

The overview page has been redesigned as well. And the idea behind it is different. Rather than an (almost) correct electrical diagram, its more a functional one. With all generation on the left, conversion & storage in the middle, and consumption on the right.

Above is the dark mode. There is also a light mode:

And its no longer necessary to go deep into the Device list to, for example, start and stop the generator or modify the shore current limit. Day to day controls are now accessible using that small button on the top left. Here is how those controls look:

Further details on gui-v2:

It is still in beta, porting all the features and functions of the old UI over to the new one is an enormous task, and I expect that to take several more months. Our internal deadline is March 2024.
Beta testing is best done using a browser, http://<ipaddress>/gui-beta. And you need to enable the MQTT on LAN (Plaintext) setting for that to work.
More screenshots as well as further instructions and a list of known issues is here:

https://bit.ly/gui-v2
Feedback is very welcome, especially positive feedback of course ;o). Before posting issues, please do check the known limitations list in the slide deck behind that bit.ly link. We're well aware that not all works yet.

Conclusion

The whole team that has worked on this is keen to hear your feedback, hope you like it ofcourse - and they're working hard to get it all finished.

Enjoy!

Matthijs

ps. I've moved the screenshots of the other renewed UI, for which beta time is over and its ready for prime time (:party:!), to the bottom.

Instructions: Venus OS beta testing & how to join/install

In case you don't know what this message is about, please start with reading this link, which explains the Venus OS beta program. Venus OS is the software running on all our GX devices, such as the Cerbo GX.

Instructions: How to post an issue?

By posting an answer below. Do please keep all findings organised: one answer issue per issue. So first check the existing threads if your issue has already been seen. And if it does, add a comment saying "me too". And preferably some more details. And in case its not listed yet, add a new Answer.

Note that Answers and Comments are two different things on this portal.

Lastly, before posting issues, preferably first revert to the latest official release (v3.10), to double check if the issue you're seeing was present there as well. Regressions require a different treatment than other issues and bugs.

And include information about the results/differences in behaviour in your report.

Instructions: Node-RED, Kevin’s GuiMods or other add-ons?

In case you are running Node-RED or SignalK, then please at least say so in your bug report.

GuiMods and other 3rd party add-ons: don’t report your gui issues here. Do it elsewhere instead.

Changes made by us can cause a compatibility issue with the GuiMods; and these betas report pages are for official firmware only.

Changes v2.30~31 -> v3.20~33

Replace Mosquitto by FlashMQ. FlashMQ was already used for all local MQTT traffic (HTML5 app and gui-v2-beta), and now it is also used for all remote traffic (VRM Portal dashboard, Remote firmware updates); In normale operation, this changing nothing. More on a developer level this reduces CPU usage and opens up the road to further remote features, most importantly running gui-v2-beta remotely over VRM.
ComAp: Fix Runtime hours display which was off by a factor of 60 (also released in v3.13)
DSE: fix engine speed reporting
DSE: fix 7xxx MKII support (also released in v3.13)
PV Inverter integration
- Fix issues in detecting newer models of Fronius inverters that caused them to be recognised as single phase inverters rather than what they are: three phase; when not using the Sunspec/ModbusTCP type of integration (which is disabled by default).
HTML5 app
- Add Ukrainian language + update various translations.
Dynamic ESS: various improvements.

Node-RED:

    - Custom output node: ability to set `msg.path` as well
    - Add new paths for existing nodes:
      - input-vebus: `/Alarms/BmsPreAlarm`, `/Ac/State/RemoteGeneratorSelected`, `/Dc/0/PreferRenewableEnergy`
      - output-vebus: `/Ac/Control/RemoteGeneratorSelected`, `/Dc/0/PreferRenewableEnergy`
      - input-solarcharger: `/Pv/[0-3]/MppOperationMode`
      - input-settings: `/Settings/CGwacs/BatteryLife/SocLimit`
      - input-inverter:` /Pv/[0-3]/MppOperationMode`
      - input-genset: `/Engine/OilPressure`
      - input-generator: `/ServiceCounter`
      - output-generator: `/ServiceCounterReset`
      - input-meteo: `/ExternalTemperature2`
      - input-multi: `/Pv/[0-3]/MppOperationMode`
      - output-settings: `/Settings/Pump0/AutoStartEnabled`, `/Settings/Pump0/Mode`, `/Settings/Pump0/StartValue`, `/Settings/Pump0/StopValue`
    - Updated documentation

Changes v2.30~28 -> v3.20~30

ComAp generater integration: add support for tank sensor on the ComAp
Add support for new Mopeka sensor models: Universal Pro, TD40, Pro 200 and Pro+
Dynamic ESS improvements
Security updates for many used components (OS level)

Changes v2.30~27

DSE generators: add showing tank data.
Stability fix for Energy Meter, EVCS, CoMap, DSE and other modbus connected devices. Fixes occasional lock-ups.
Small Dynamic ESS improvements.
FlashMQ improvements
- Publish N//full_publish_completed after full publish.
- Add min/max to the json.
- And more internal changes.
Further harden resize2fs and remount-rw scripts. Those scripts are used by tinkerers / people modding the GX device.

Changes v2.30~23 -> 26

Further updates to boat/motorhome 2 demo

Changes v3.20~22

Update boat/motorhome 2 demo

Changes v3.20~19 -> v3.20~21

Add Ukranian language
Fix bug related to some SolarEdge inverters, bug was introduced per v3.20~18; thank you to those that quickly reported this!
Add support for new SMA TriPower X PV-inverters, and possibly even more models. All PV-inverters that use the newer Sunspec models in the 700 series (IEEE1547) will now be supported. Limiting, aka Zero-feedin is not (yet) supported on any of these.
FlashMQ stability improvements
Update Boat/Motorhome demo 2; it includes an alternator, and a few tanks and temperature sensors.
RV-C: Fix tank out DGN
Dynamic ESS: fix repeated charge/discharge pattern for batteries using the (third part) dbus-serial driver. This driver reports SOC as a floating point number, but jumps over some values, sending DESS directly from charge to discharge and skipping idle. New hysteresis implementation ensures that idle is always entered.

Developers:

fix /etc/fstab being empty after remounting the rootfs as writable, issue on RaspberryPis as well as Cerbo with large image.

Venus OS Large

Update signalk-n2k-ais-to-nmea0183 plugin from v1.3.1 to v1.4.0
Update signalk-venus-plug from v1.33.1 to v1.34.0

Changes v3.20~18

Add support for read-out of KACO PV Inverters. Note that Zero feed-in is not supported at the moment

Changes v3.20~15 -> v3.20~17

Note: due to a possible issue, see discussion below, we have disabled the online updates for all raspberrypi models. Downloading the .swu file and then manually installing it is still possible.

Various Dynamic ESS related improvements:
- Remove the separate DESS MinSoc setting. DynamicESS now uses the ESS MinSoc.
- Stop showing "Low Soc" errorcode when DynamicEss reaches the target SOC.
- Fix bug that limited solar chargers in relation to the target SOC. Rather than limiting, get there early, and power loads or feed excess into the grid.
- Implement restrictions for the German market:
  - Two modes are supported: Disallow export from battery to grid, and Disallow import from grid to battery.
  - When converting from DC to grid is disallowed, export-power is limited to local consumption, plus DC-coupled PV (which is green).
  - When converting from grid to DC is disallowed, import-power is limited to AC-coupled PV.
Fix bug where DVCC user charge current limit is ignored with VE.Bus BMS. Introduced in Venus OS v3.00.
Managed batteries: Detect WeCo battery
Re-add the Marine MFD HTML5 app, including various improvements already announced for v3.20~14 (but not visible then due to a mistake in the build):
- Fix missing data.
- Fix power conversions (W/kW) for generators.
- Fix inconsistent energy values between pages.
- Fix tank warning colors.
- Fix rounding of device component values.
- Fix issue where values were shown while the device was unplugged/not running.
- Remove active current limit from inverter/charger on system overview.
- Remove artificial Charged state from batteries.
- Make charger and inverter/charger input current limit adjustable in steps of 0.5A.
- Show the same power unit for multi-phase devices.
- Made modals responsive
- Remove the word "overview" from the energy detailed page.
- Add Ukrainian translations.
A few more improvements on the Marine MFD HTML5 App:
- Multi phased data visual alignment
- Fix value overflows
- Lock description translations
Add support for the second temperature sensor on newer versions of the IMT-SI meteorological sensor
DSE Gensets:
- hide menu entries that are not relevant for DSE gensets.
- Add "Number of engine starts" item for DSE gensets.
VRM Logging:
- Transmit EV Charger energy data
- Transmit a few Dynamic ESS parameters
EV Chargers:
- Fix TCP connection remaining open for disabled devices (this is an improvement introduced earlier during v3.20 development which had a bug, fixed now).

Changes v3.20~12 and v3.20~14

Add DSE generator error messages
Fix MultiPlus II 2x120V device screen shows large negative current on AC-Out L2 when inverting or with single phase grid connection (also released in v3.12)

Development / internals:

Fix issue for certain electric drive / motor controllers causing the device to not show on the device list.
Fix packaging of Python multiprocessing package

Changes v3.20~11 and v3.20~12

Support additional DSE generator models. The complete list is now:
- 4510 MKII
- 4620
- 6110 MKII
- 7310 MKII
- 7410 MKII
- 7420 MKII
- 8610 MKII
- 8660 MKII
VM-3P75CT: update minimum required firmware version to v1.03

Developers

Update Qt6 to QT 6.5.2

Changes v3.20~10

Fix issue that caused the energy meter its role setting to get lost and return to the default. The issue affected systems having energy meter setup to measure output of a PV Inverter, a grid meter or an AC load. We recommend to double check the system, any system that has ran v3.20~9 for a while, might need this setting to be restored manually. Issue was introduced in v3.20~9

Changes v3.20~8 and v3.20~9

ESS:

Increase limit of 32.7kW per phase limit to 138kW.
Fix problem where the recently introduced setting "Self-consumption from Battery" to "only critical loads" did not work correctly if a Multi on L1 was compensating for loads on other phases.

Managed batteries:

Add menu entry showing module-level alarms. Note that there are no batteries that support this yet.

Quattro-II

Add support for new Error 128 as well as transmit more diagnostic data to VRM.

EV Charger and VE-Energy Meter

Add enable/disable switch for EV Chargers and VE-energy meters. Defaults to disabled: from now onwards, when installing an EV Charger with a GX, the EV Charger needs to be enabled in the GX. Any EVCS already seen in a prior GX firmware version will be enabled automatically.
Add option to manually add VE Energy Meter, mostly intended in case the meter is not on the same network, which might happen in systems having a more complex ethernet/IP network.

Energy Meters, SmartShunt and Inverter and Multi RS:

Fix issue in reporting to VRM that happens in some cases. Installing the new version will solve the issue automatically.
Note that there might also be a bug in v3.20~9, that makes systems with an energy meter configured to measure a PV Inverter change the role by themselves to Grid, which we are working on.

RV-C:

Fix bugs in the VE.Bus related DGNs:
- Fix external control state in CHARGER_STATE DGN.
- Improve CHARGER_STATE in case the charger is disabled or mains is not present.
- Improve INVERTER_STATE in case the inverter is disabled or cannot invert due to low battery.
Fix sending of DGNs of the main interface (the GX itself). Broken since VenusOS v3.00. Mostly harmless, since this only contains GX firmware version and similar data.

Venus OS Large

Update Signal K Server from v1.46.3 to v2.3.0
- Fixes various UX issues
- Adds documentation
- Various under-the-hood improvements related to Course API, CanboatJS and more
- Full change log: https://github.com/SignalK/signalk-server/releases
Update NodeJS from v1.18.16 to v1.18.18

Changes v3.20~5, 6 and 7

Fix Ekrano GX remote firmware update issues with VE.Can products: the remote firmware update mechanism did not accept having two ports configured with the VE.Can profile, which the Ekrano has by default.
Add support for DSE 4620 genset controllers (this connects via ModbusTCP, just like ComAp. More details, as well as more models, will follow later).
Various fixes related to Generator start/stop
Show a warning if the firmware for the MK3 controller built into the GX device has not been updated yet. For details, see the v3.00 blog post.
Dynamic ESS:
- Fix problem with oscillation around the Dynamic ESS minsoc point. Once the system reached the minimum SOC, it would go back into normal ESS mode. This could cause the battery to start recharging, causing oscillation. Now we remain in DESS mode, but we go to idle, and set the ErrorCode accordingly (Low SOC).
Solar and wind priority: fix a small bug around charge battery to 100% visualisation.

RaspberryPi:

Add files for the RaspberryPi 3a Plus model. Thank you @Head!

Changes v3.20~3 and v3.20~4

Fix various bugs in the gui related to generator start/stop, all regressions introduced per v3.10.
- Fix generator start stop reported run time
- Fix an info toast message is not shown when setting service timer
- Fix bug where FischerPanda gensets sometimes lose the engine values (Oil Pressure, RPM, etc)
IMT Irradiance sensors: Log the value of second temperature probe to VRM.
Dynamic ESS:
- Fix bug where the maximum system feed-in setting was exceeded during automatic DynamicESS use

Venus OS Large

Victron Palette, aka node-red-contrib-victron, v1.5.0 to v1.5.2
- Add option to show the values in the flow. Instead of OK and Connected. A very nice improvement, see below screenshot. Activate in the configuration node.
- Update dependencies
- Send only changed rounded values
Node-RED: update from v3.0.2 to v3.1.0.
- Full change log is here: https://github.com/node-red/node-red/releases/tag/3.1.0.
- A blog post by the Node-RED organisation, with more detailed information is here: https://nodered.org/blog/2023/09/06/version-3-1-released
- One highlight is the new option to lock flows, and another is that its easier to see what you've changed in the editor.

The 23.8 in below screenshot is what is new in Node-RED per Venus OS v3.20~4:

Changes v3.10 -> v3.20~2

Re-add HTML5 app. Changes compared to the previous version:
- Increase performance / response speed
- Fix tank levels showing NaN sometimes
Remote Multi/Quattro firmware updates: fix bug where the Multis and Quattros don't show on on the VRM firmware update device list if the mk3 firmware has not been upgraded.
IMT Irradiance sensors:
- add support for second temperature probe on devices with two temperature probes
- add support for IMT sensors running firmware versions older than v1.53.
VE-3P75CT meter: increase ESS speed slightly
Update FzSonick batteries product name

Developers:

re-enable FlashMQ

Previous posts on v3.20:

Completely renewed Marine MFD / HTML5 App

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And here a more extended system, with more tanks, and more energy sources:

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Note that above two screenshots are taken from the design files, it might differ a bit from actual implemenation.

These are screenshots taken from the new implementation, but there I'm not able to now have them embedded in actual look on a marine MFD like above:

And light mode:

And for comparison, here is a screenshot of the old version:

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Dec 01, 2023 at 12:31 PM

Dear all, a short heads up: today/tomorrow we'll release v3.13~1 into the Release candidate feed for public testing.

Its a "backport release", having bug fixes, as well as all changes related to Dynamic ESS.

But not the new gui-v2, not the new html5 app, not FlashMQ and not various other things.

Therefore:if you whish to keep those new features, make sure to not update to v3.13~1 / disable auto updates.

But on the other hand, any help in making sure that v3.13 is as rock solid as it should be is welcome!

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Dec 07, 2023 at 11:09 AM

Dear all, per earlier this morning v3.20 beta series is testable again.

v3.20~33 to be exact. Various further bug fixes, some of which were also released in v3.13.

And the most significant change is one thats under the hood, its replacing the Mosquitto MQTT broker by FlashMQ. Further details in the change log; and more details like how much CPU is saved which I saw someone asking will be added later.

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andrii-podanenko commented · Dec 09, 2023 at 07:34 AM

Thank you for your work, team

Ukrainians appreciate both adding language and making light theme looks really cool :)) :flag-ua:

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mwu commented · Dec 11, 2023 at 09:42 AM

Hello everyone,

there's definitely a lot of work put into the new gui and from a technical point of view it's a great thing.

I wonder why many people love gray/black designs today? I wish - and I hope other users do too - that the colored gui remains selectable!! My wife and I love the fresh, friendly appearance of the site. To be honest, it was also a reason for choosing Victron.

The other configuration views in white, blue and black font with the previous font height are more suitable for me because of presbyopia, than the new ones, especially on the 5" display.

Best regards

Manfred

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andrii-podanenko commented · Dec 09, 2023 at 07:36 AM

Thank you for your hard work, team

Ukrainians appreciate adding translations, please, ensure they are synchronized every release, we are doing a lot of polishing in order for the words fit into widget sizes, as well as working on contexts

Also, new gui looks great, colors are AWESOME;)

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andrii-podanenko commented · Dec 09, 2023 at 07:44 AM

Multi RS 6000 Dual Tracker shows 4x times in gui-beta, while I have only one yet :)

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ andrii-podanenko commented · Dec 11, 2023 at 06:22 AM

Thanks! Thats a known issue which will be solved.

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Dec 16, 2023 at 09:57 PM

Hi all! Just now I’ve released a new version for beta testing, v3.20~34, and wrote a new post for that:

https://community.victronenergy.com/questions/249509/venus-os-v32034-available-for-testing.html

Thank you for all the comments, I still have to read all of them.

Note that especially for gui-v2 we won’t be answering each and every one of them now.

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thtruck commented · Mar 03 at 05:36 PM

Today i installed firmware 3.30-11changed to the new ui and it works fine but remote console via VRM does not connect so i switched back to 3.22

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beat answered · Nov 23, 2023 at 06:41 PM

Congrats Victron team! It's a great modernization!

The new UI is cleaner and way more modern-looking than the current one, nice job!

First a few bug reports:

1. In Firefox on Linux, I get blue screen error at startup, which is a big issue for me, as Firefox is the only open-source non-spying-by-default browser:

venus-gui-v2

Error: WebAssembly is not supported"

But it works in Chromium on Linux (although seems to be heavily downloading third-party stuff at first connection).

2. In Large OS features, NodeRED is noted as "unknown" and "enabled" is not selectable. However NodeRED continues to work fine.

3. After upgrading, connecting and turning MP-II remotely on, got 2 error notifications: Lost BMS connection, and Low Battery Voltage in the Notifications from VE-Bus. And indeed, in DVCC, the auto-selection of controlling system was saying "none", while in a previous Venus-OS, the auto-selection was auto-selecting Pylontech fine. Selecting Pylontech seems to have worked, and the low battery notification got fixed, the other one not sure.

4. Keyboard control of the v2 GUI seems missing, it's a key accessibility feature, and speeds up tremendously remote control. Will that be added back ?

And here a few feedbacks as positive suggestions for further improvements:

Include UX and accessibility criteria, like for contrast:

- Re: Accessibility: The battery part contrast and the units of numbers most probably don't pass the awesome WCAG 2.1/2.2 compliance (many tools exist for HTML output tests), and accessibility is useful to everyone, as it improves the readability for everyone. For that character sizes and spacing, especially between digits and units, could probably be adjusted to improve readability.

- Re: UX: You probably have 2 current target groups (tbc): tech savy users, and super tech savy users :-), and an expansion target group: non-tech savy users. ;-). Especially for the last target group, there is a great book and principle in UX: "Don't make me think" (old book, but still highly recommended read), which applies the KISS (Keep it Simple and Stupid in a smart way). Generally, the new UI is better than the current one in this respect. And information is richer and has nice graphs. Cool!

"Brief" screen:

- graphically very clean, but also very unusual. With just Battery displayed, it's well understandable, but with the above screenshot with that many guages, It makes me think rationally to be able to understand, which means it could be improved in terms of UX:

- It's not visible at a glance that theses are all gauges. Subtle hints like min-max indications (discrete small lines) might help for the border ones. For the middle one, I love the solution from an fun engineering pov and artistic design PoV, to achieve such a density and fun, but it makes it non-trivial at a first glance, from an industrial design PoV not that sure. One of the UX principle is that, *at first glance* a lambda user should recognize the visual elements. Another one is that the graphic elements should make eye movements logical and the graphism should clarify that. So it's a great starting point, but I would say too much text popping, icons too small and not for everything. Maybe try removing texts and have nice bigger icons ?, simplify gauges and make them more gauges-look ? don't put more than very few visuals at same place, especially if not directly related ? Jauges should be in the same direction: "more is better" waste water could be available waste water room. Gauges full = Great, empty = Problem. These are just ideas. You can PM/email me if you wish a more indepth ideas.

"overview" screen:

- The new "functionnal schematic": I love the integrated historical graph of solar there (and those on VRM too), they could be on each rectangle, a bit like on VRM, or in Grafana gauges/indicators. Having a much less agressively colored is awesome too, maybe a well-chosen duo-tone or tri-tone color-schema could improve things a lot (solar on blue? really ? yellow goes well with blue in duo/tri-colorschemes). The super tech savy group knows how to read a real schematic and will like details at a glance, like solar DC/AC separate. And non-tech savy users will appreciate to have the solar total in a single number. Maybe there is a way to make all these groups happy with the same UI? Give sums in bold big letters, and add details below in smaller letters. Or make it configurable with edit mode and drag&drop ? There are UI descriptive languages that would allow something awesome here.

- nice, but everything is "same looking", great from a designer perspective, but not so great from an UX perspective. In the old interface colors made things immediately *perceivable* (without thinking) which information was read, here it's much harder. Maybe having a big icon for grid, solar, etc, on the left of the value could help, or different backgrounds in the boxes (maybe use a duo-colorscheme or a tri-colorscheme?

That's it for tonight, awesome job!

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 25, 2023 at 03:35 PM

Hi @beat , thank you for your detailed feedback! I’ll discuss this here

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Answer 1 · 2023-11-21T23:47:46Z

David answered · Nov 21, 2023 at 11:47 PM

The new GUI.. I'll try and be nice.

1. The default 'brief' screen makes visualising whats going on harder than before. IMHO, the Overview screen should be default.

2. The Overview - It bundles all my solar generation together. I have AC coupled and DC Coupled solar - on the old GUI, these were shown separately - I could visualise where the power was coming from much more easily. I now need to push on 'solar yield' to see the generation of my AC and all my MPPTS.

3. In Battery Details - The lowest/highest cell volt details are not working? (showing 14v | 4v)

4. I know victron is blue.. But only using blue!?

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 22, 2023 at 10:22 PM

Hi David,

1. We'll make it such that it remembers the page you were last on while booting up (if its not like that already) - so should be taken care of. I've seen lots of people that do prefer the brief page, similarly lots of (typically more technical) people that prefer the overview page.

2. yes, see answer below to Ojack.

3. thanks, listed to be fixed!

4. its a choice.

Thank you for the feedback!

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 22, 2023 at 10:22 PM

ps. can you detail the type of battery/bms you're using as well as post a screenshot?

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David mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 26, 2023 at 02:09 AM

Hi - Thanks- I have a batrium BMS.

Attached are screen shots from non beta and the beta.

Now that I can compare - I can see where things have gone wrong in the new UI.

The first cell voltage says 2.0v but its really cell 2 that's at 4v (lowest cell voltage).

The same with temp - Its the cell number 1 that's at the lowest temp of 26deg.

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Answer 2 · 2023-11-22T07:19:53Z

Craig Robinson answered · Nov 22, 2023 at 07:19 AM

still no remote console I guess that will get fixed at some point

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nickdb ♦♦ commented · Nov 22, 2023 at 10:21 AM

Yes, it is being tested internally first.

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Answer 3 · 2023-11-22T09:33:45Z

harold answered · Nov 22, 2023 at 09:33 AM

Looking COOL, the new GUI!
Looking forward to use it.

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michaeld commented · Nov 22, 2023 at 08:17 PM

It's so pretty! And performance is so much better on the remote console! Fantastic work team :)

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ michaeld commented · Nov 22, 2023 at 10:20 PM

thanks! Yes Remote Console is real joy now.

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harold mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 24, 2023 at 10:02 AM

Will the new GUI work on CCGX too?

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Answer 4 · 2023-11-22T09:59:10Z

ojack answered · Nov 22, 2023 at 09:59 AM

First impression after having a short look:

Nice dark finish

Don't like the nervously fidgeting scales from the gridmeter in both brief and overview. For me too much reduced information at the overview page. I would like to see my PVs (ACin, ACout and DC) separatly.

What defines the lenght of the scales? The scale for consumption seems to have a fixed and very large lenght while the scale for grid and PV seem to have a variable lenght?

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 22, 2023 at 10:20 PM

Hi @OJack , thank you for the feedback!

The length of the scales is being improved; its not good now indeed.

Seeing the PVs separately is a hard one, for now you'll have to keep using the old gui for that; and possibly we'll keep that as an option: to use the old gui. And perhaps at some point make an option to split those different PV inputs and outputs again; something to consider later. The aim here was also to reduce clutter; as well as make an option to really see all arrays in a list, rather than splitting up in dc/ac-out/ac-in which for some systems happens to be nice but for large systems with lots of different PV arrays on DC and/or lots of different PV arrays on AC-out is not so useful.

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ojack mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 23, 2023 at 12:29 PM

Hi @mvader (Victron Energy) ,

thanks for your answer.

Today I found another thing I don't understand.

There are three scales for Solar. I have 2 mppts and 3 AC PVs (1 at ACin and 2 at ACout). What are the three scales showing?

And at the Batterie in "brief" the Power [W] would be nice. In the "non technical" Brief view I would like to have only W because a non technician is not helped with info about V and A.

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Answer 5 · 2023-11-22T10:56:57Z

daniel20222 answered · Nov 22, 2023 at 10:56 AM

Cerbo update problems

Hello

With the update 3.20-26 for the Cerbo and now also with the 3.20-27 I have the problem the remote console still shows you a white screen and I first have to disconnect the power supply. Then the Cerbo really goes up again.

That was never before until 3.20-26.

Does anyone have the same problem?

Cerbo Update Probleme

Hallo

mit dem Update 3.20-26 für den Cerbo und jetzt auch mit dem 3.20-27 habe ich das Problem die Remote Konsole dir noch einen weißen Bildschirm anzeigt und ich erst die Stromversorgung trennen muss. Dann fährt der Cerbo wieder richtig hoch.

Das war bis zum 3.20-26 noch nie.

Hat jemand das gleiche Problem?

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ojack commented · Nov 22, 2023 at 12:28 PM

Der modifications Bereich ist komplett auf Englisch, die Entwickler kommen aus NL bis Australien. Es wäre besser wenn du deinen Beitrag übersetzen würdest. Zur Not per google Übersetzer. Das klappt ganz gut.

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daniel20222 ojack commented · Nov 22, 2023 at 12:48 PM

Wurde gemacht

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ daniel20222 commented · Nov 22, 2023 at 10:17 PM

That is quite strange; are you perhaps running gui mods? Make sure to install the latest version of that? White screen indicates an issue in the gui.

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daniel20222 mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 23, 2023 at 04:42 PM

Hallo

Yes, I use GUI, but despite the error only from 3.20-26 on. With older updates it always worked with firmware first and then GUI without any problems.

Ja ich nutze GUI, jedoch trotz der Fehler erst von 3.20-26 auf. Bei älteren Updates ging es immer erst Firmware und dann GUI ohne Probleme.

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Answer 6 · 2023-11-22T17:08:17Z

solarmowe answered · Nov 22, 2023 at 05:08 PM

Tried to update through vrm always breaking at 85% it say success but go back to 3.20~26

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 22, 2023 at 10:15 PM

Hi @solarmowe , that is really quite strange - and not reproducible here. Is it OK if you login to your system and try again while looking? (looks like we can find it using your email address).

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 23, 2023 at 10:46 PM

Ok will do! (I deleted your comment, to not have your email listed here)

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Answer 7 · 2023-11-23T03:35:13Z

nebulight answered · Nov 23, 2023 at 03:35 AM

This is huge undertaking; congrats on all the hard work! I'm going to get this loaded up this weekend and give it a try!

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Answer 8 · 2023-11-23T04:20:21Z

nebulight answered · Nov 23, 2023 at 04:20 AM

I went from 2.92 on my pi to this beta and I'm in a boot loop. I did have an rc.local on there I think for connecting to my GPS on my router. I'll play around with it a bit more this weekend.

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hjohnson commented · Nov 26, 2023 at 05:43 AM

Interestingly, I have something similar going, and it survived the upgrade to the current version. A little rc.local script that sets up a fake com port, though in my case it loops back to my SignalK installation rather than a remote router, as for whatever reason the VenusOS still won't get GPS data directly over NMEA2000 from my AIS Transponder.

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Answer 9 · 2023-11-23T04:20:29Z

Doron Azulay answered · Nov 23, 2023 at 04:20 AM

I have a cerbo and gx touch screen, can this work on that ?

how do i install this ?

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Answer 10 · 2023-11-23T07:16:25Z

Bernhard Matschinger answered · Nov 23, 2023 at 07:16 AM

Is there a way to add #KeyBoard Support to the new GUI? - it is wunderful for changing Settings and so on, when you can quickly navigate in the Device Lists... Arrows, Space, Esc, Enter :) .. I am really missing this in #gui-beta

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 23, 2023 at 10:48 PM

Hello! Yes, its because of a bug in the framework we use. A fix is underway / but might take a while to actually be solved

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Answer 11 · 2023-11-23T08:55:45Z

alan-peng answered · Nov 23, 2023 at 08:55 AM

In 3.20~30, the DC load value is wrong, which also includes the alternator charging power(like Gui-V1).

But in demo motorhome 2, the DC load value is correct.

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 23, 2023 at 10:50 PM

Hi Alan, thank you - will be fixed.

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luphi commented · Dec 07, 2023 at 04:45 PM

Do you have a dedicated shunt named "Alternator" or where is this coming from?

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Answer 12 · 2023-11-23T10:30:27Z

Al answered · Nov 23, 2023 at 10:30 AM

GUI V2 looks great, especially in dark mode.

I completely understand most people want a clean uncluttered UI, but.. If we can no longer have Kevin's GUI Mods, is there any possibility to have an option on the Overview Page: 'Show Details' Like VRM Dashboard - but that can then display the individual MPPT Power, AC in can then display: Frequency, Current, Voltage, maybe the Temperature/ tanks are displayed too. Sorry if this is getting too similar to the GUI Mods overview, but if there's any chance to display a bit more info on one page overview, I'd love that option.

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Juha Tuomala commented · Dec 17, 2023 at 12:25 AM

Frequency is important for genset owners since Quattros are so picky about it. I also would like to have SOC and relays in Overview and easier to use than they were in old GUI. Old one is prone to wrong changes since you have to scroll the GUI buttons and not to change them. There are critiacal settings like inverter main mode among them.

Eyecandy is welcome, but keep a lot of information available for technical people. If needed, make an Advanced mode that shows everything and leave the mere watts for normal mortals. @mvader (Victron Energy) notify.

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Answer 13 · 2023-11-23T15:07:20Z

iand answered · Nov 23, 2023 at 03:07 PM

Is the intention that after GUI v2 is released and debugged -- or vice versa! -- future Victron OS development effort/support will focus on this, with GUI v1 just kept running for legacy systems?

Or is the intention that future feature releases/enhancements will be supported in both GUIs, at least for the foreseeable future?

In other words, is this a fork or a switch? :-)

Tagging @mvader (Victron Energy) ...

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 23, 2023 at 10:59 PM

Hi, good question.

The underlying OS is the same. And gui-v1 remains to be part of it, for CCGX; and we’ll do minimal maintenance on that.

Development of gui-v1, aside from adding settings for new features, has already been stopped for a while.

And eventually we’ll likely prefer to further minimise it.

We’ll take a pragmatic approach

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Answer 14 · 2023-11-23T20:01:11Z

Kaj Lehtinen answered · Nov 23, 2023 at 08:01 PM

I have, in Venus OS v3.20~26 a DC System thats generating same amount of power as the connected DC load is drawing. The DC System isnt there in reality, only the DC Load, and its measured by a Victron Smartshunt.

Same behavior with Venus OS v3.20~30.

Also missing a AC Load on the consumer side (both tested versions), its a Shelly 3EM configured as AC Load.

/Kaj

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hjohnson commented · Nov 26, 2023 at 01:45 AM

Experiencing this precise issue myself. In our case, our DC system (Using the smartshunt as a DC meter) is consuming, say, 50 watts, and that 50 Watts is being provided by the multiplus inverter//charger. The "DC System" on the left is superflous, and instad the 50 watts should be indicated from the inverter/charger.

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darkproximity commented · Nov 26, 2023 at 05:34 AM

Also seeing the same issue. I have a lynx shunt for the battery bank and a smart shunt as an energy meter for the RV's DC system.

Right now it appears like yours where its seen as a power source instead of a load. However in my case it could be a source or load as i have a converter I can use for additional charging on generator power.

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Answer 15 · 2023-11-24T08:04:15Z

solarmowe answered · Nov 24, 2023 at 08:04 AM

Just a quick one, is the standard UI still Available in the neu Beta?

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jeroen ♦ commented · Nov 24, 2023 at 08:14 AM

yes

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Answer 16 · 2023-11-24T22:08:57Z

ppr answered · Nov 24, 2023 at 10:08 PM

I can just repeat what I mentioned with - i guess it was 3.11 or 3.12?
An awesome perfect job into the right direction. And really great from you guys that you want to make the code available for public. Very nice. I love it and can't wait to see when the first final release is here.
For me now, I can just play around on a cerbo where nothing is connected. Can not install it on customer systems so far. But I am looking forward to it.

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 25, 2023 at 08:22 AM

thanks! Yes its too early to install on customer systems. In general, its better to not have those on beta.

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Answer 17 · 2023-11-25T07:45:47Z

michal-hudecek answered · Nov 25, 2023 at 07:45 AM

JKBMS_BLE does not work after updating to this version. Last working version 3.12. He also tried updating the drivers. Without success. Original CERBO GX.

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 25, 2023 at 09:08 AM

Hi @Michal Hudecek , Can you make an issue for that in the (third party) repo for that? I'm not familiar with jkbms-ble. Thanks.

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Answer 18 · 2023-11-25T11:40:35Z

pf-1 answered · Nov 25, 2023 at 11:40 AM

Congratulations and many thanks to the whole team.
You have already achieved a lot, it looks great.

Here are two things I noticed - you wanted to hear them ;-)

The AC Loads are no longer separated into AC-Loads and Critical-Loads. Is it possible to find the Critical Loads separately again in the future?

Only the Grid Current Limit can be set in the Inverter/Charger menu of a quattro. The generator limit is displayed, but it cannot be edited.

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 26, 2023 at 10:42 AM

Hi @PF_1 , thank you for the feedback.

Splitting normal and critical loads (whats your opinion on renaming that to essential and non-essential btw?) is on the todo list.

Wrt generator current not being editable: can you check with VEConfigure and/or VictronConnect if it supposed to be editable? In the inverter/charger there is a settign for that. "Allow override by panel". The idea being that for a generator this is set to a fixed value by the installer. And not an operational day-to-day value.

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pf-1 mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 26, 2023 at 12:04 PM

Hy @mvader (Victron Energy) thank you for the quick response. Do you ever have weekends?

I see AC out 1 as a kind of UPS-out (uninterruptible power supply) and would therefore prefer the term UPS loads as opposed to AC loads. Because the designation essential or critical says nothing about the function of the output itself.

Regarding the editable generator currents, you are of course right (as so often ;-) )
As soon as you activate the setting "Current limit overruled by remote", the generator current can also be set in the gui.
I had previously assumed that this entry only referred to hardware such as the digital multi control.
Perhaps the term "adjustable" instead of "overruled" would be less misleading here.

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beat mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 26, 2023 at 12:07 PM

@mvader (Victron Energy) Re opinion question on normal/critical renaming to non-essential/essential:

- starting a term by an inversion is against good UX principles imho, because it starts a logical thinking process and makes you think ;-) .

- And negative terminology is against good marketing principles :-D. Also it's indirectly clear what the meanings are.

- Question is if it's even worth renaming, as renaming brings confusion and time-consuming documentation & videos changes

- normal/critical is ok too, gives an idea of sobriety needed in the choices.

- if you still wish to rename, here a few more suggestions:

a. normal / essential

b. normal / backed-up (edit: backup AC or UPS can work too, although UPS is an acronym, so makes think, and means an entirely different market)

c. normal / continuity (or continuous)

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ojack beat commented · Nov 26, 2023 at 12:13 PM

Or perhaps editable by the User in the settings so everybody can name it like he/she prefers.

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pf-1 beat commented · Nov 26, 2023 at 12:48 PM

To start with, the current designation is perfectly adequate for me and does not need to be changed in my view. I was just asked for my opinion.

In Germany, the term "USV" (Unterbrechungsfreie StromVersorgung), which means free from interruption, has a positive connotation and cannot be confused with a global transportation company. This is probably where my suggestion comes from.

However, if a new name is to be used, I would refer it to the characteristic of the output and not to the loads connected to it. So "backed-up loads", or "protected loads" or similar would be fine.

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Answer 19 · 2023-11-25T18:28:23Z

Gian answered · Nov 25, 2023 at 06:28 PM

hello everyone

I have a Si-RS485TC-2T-v-MB irradiance sensor, I can only see it, I cannot access the wind, or the cell temperature. I hope it helps you review, greetings

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Answer 20 · 2023-11-25T23:26:30Z

Noel answered · Nov 25, 2023 at 11:26 PM

Found a little spelling mistake.

Overview > EVCS > Chafrging-station.

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 26, 2023 at 10:40 AM

noted; will be fixed

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 27, 2023 at 08:05 AM

Hi again @Noel ; could it be that you have set a custom name, and there is a type in there?

We can't reproduce this.

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Noel mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 27, 2023 at 09:00 AM

oops... My typo. Sorry about this.

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Answer 21 · 2023-11-26T12:35:50Z

hotbiker answered · Nov 26, 2023 at 12:35 PM

Why is there a DC Load in gui-v2? I have none.

I found the error myself:
The "Has DC system" switch was activated by mistake

... but DC Loads is not shown in the old gui.

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Answer 22 · 2023-11-27T00:08:13Z

dunnp answered · Nov 27, 2023 at 12:08 AM

Re gui-v2:

Is there an issue with older versions of iOS? I tend to re-purpose old hand-me-down iPhones and iPads as system displays, but noticed that two old devices (one iPhone and one iPad mini) running iOS 12.5.x throw an error when attempting to connect with Safari. (Screenshot below). The URL I entered is 192.168.1.98/gui-beta On my later iPhone on iOS15.something, all is fine (identical URL).

Any clues?

Phil.

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hjohnson commented · Nov 27, 2023 at 12:50 AM

The new app is built in webassembly, rather than being html5 w/ javascript etc. It's quite likely that iOS 12.x doesn't have sufficient support for it.

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ hjohnson commented · Nov 27, 2023 at 07:29 AM

Yes, likely that older iOS versions (and Android) versions don't work. We've not yet looked into the minimum version yet.

As an alternative, you could use http://<ipaddress>/app

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Answer 23 · 2023-11-27T08:18:29Z

harold answered · Nov 27, 2023 at 08:18 AM

Will this new GUI run on CCGX?

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 27, 2023 at 08:26 AM

yes and no, see the slides behind the bit.ly link.

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Answer 24 · 2023-11-27T20:34:01Z

Mark answered · Nov 27, 2023 at 08:34 PM

Pylontech battery cell details are displayed with incorrect values……..

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Answer 25 · 2023-11-27T23:41:31Z

Timo Engelmann answered · Nov 27, 2023 at 11:41 PM

Hi Victron-Team,

I have installed and tested it - I love it! Great work!
It's a big step towards a fresh, modern GUI.

A few small notes or kindly wishes:

Solar

- Please set the default for 'Solar Yield / MPPT / History' to 'Yesterday' or better save the last selection.

- I am already looking forward to the not yet existing 'Chart' in this area.

- Please add a history page for a sum of all MPPTs

Overview

- Maybe it is possible to add a bar chart for the AC loads and also for the grid on the 'Overview' page. Maybe the last 24 hours (2h/bar), or configurable.

Short

- When the details are displayed, the graph is very very fast, it would be nice to be able to configure the time range of this graph. Also it would be nice to configure the min and max value to avoid automatic zooming of the y-axis.

I love the several pages to get very easy detailed values!!!

Best regards Timo

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Answer 26 · 2023-11-28T00:04:08Z

ers answered · Nov 28, 2023 at 12:04 AM

new ui looks familiar:

from: https://simarine.net/pico-battery-monitor/

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Answer 27 · 2023-11-28T09:34:39Z

mpuff answered · Nov 28, 2023 at 09:34 AM

Hello,

is it possible to have a daily evaluation separately of critical and ac load?

Not only total consumption.

Maybe in VenusOS or VRM Portal

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Answer 28 · 2023-11-28T14:39:39Z

wolferl answered · Nov 28, 2023 at 02:39 PM

Hi all, thank you for the new UI

I have a question tough: Is there a way to force flashMQ to do a full publish (best would be via Node Red, other options are welcome) and afterwards publish N//full_publish_completed.

Another question came up: When I use the new GUI and open "VRM instances", there are a couple of unconnected (eg batteries). Is it possible to remove the unconnected ones so my batteries can again have instance 1 and 2?

Last: I only could operate the GUI via mouse or touch, is it planned to enable cursor keys for navigation also?

Thank you

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Kevin Windrem commented · Nov 28, 2023 at 04:42 PM

gui-v2 is touch/mouse only. No access from cursor keys on a computer/tablet keyboard or "hard buttons" like on the CCGX or the GUI v2 web access/VRM Remote Console.

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 28, 2023 at 09:58 PM

Hi!

1. Yes both options you describe exist. Read : https://github.com/victronenergy/venus/issues/1098 carefully.

2. no; not from the UI at the moment. But, can’t you move those instances to a different one first?

3. We’re not sure yet. Keyboard doesn’t work at all on desktop (WASM) because of a bug in the Qt framework; we’ll see further once thats solved.

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wolferl mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Nov 29, 2023 at 05:37 PM

Thank you for clarification:

2: how to move an instance, the instance number is automatically assigned when booting up my system... Now I have odd instance numbers for my batteries eg: 2 and 6, even if I have only two batteries. Would be great to be able to reset the unconnected battery instances and reboot, so the system reassigns instance 1 and 2...

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ wolferl commented · Dec 11, 2023 at 06:35 AM

Hi, have you tried changing the instance of the non-connected batteries to free those up?

(And then assign them as you whish)

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Answer 29 · 2023-11-29T13:53:48Z

Johannes Li (Johannes Li) answered · Nov 29, 2023 at 01:53 PM

Cerbo GX with GX Touch 70 @ 3.20~30

Brightness not adjustable in beta UI,

Auto-Display-off not operational.

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Answer 30 · 2023-11-29T17:25:29Z

pwfarnell answered · Nov 29, 2023 at 05:25 PM

I really like the new GUI after running through it. One thing I definitely.like is not having to scroll through all the devices to get to settings. I have a few minor comments, nothing major.

1. On the brief view any chance of a fifth level, then all tanks would be included. This is not critical as the 5th would be LPG which lasts several months, not as critical as watching batteries, fresh water or waste water.

2. If you do not have 4 levels you want on the brief screen I did not see an option "NONE" for levels 2 to 4 to stop them being displayed.

3. On the brief view the bars jump about a bit, will the system learn what ranges you have for your various powers so it can scale them properly.

4. On the light mode overview, the dark grey/black text on the shaded battery capacity is hard to see clearly, much easier on dark mode with white on blue.

5. On the overview tiles I would expect to see W, A, V and possibly Hz in each of the boxes so all key details can be seen in one go without necessarily drilling down into the detail. Whilst not shown above, alternators are always monitored in Amps but solar in Watts to know how they are performing vs expectations.

6. On the temperature scales they come arbitrarily at -40degC to +60degC, -40 is too low to ever be needed in the UK and +60 is lower than some of my measurements maximum. Will we be able to choose the ranges.

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Answer 31 · 2023-11-29T17:33:45Z

gr1pen answered · Nov 29, 2023 at 05:33 PM

Ahh.. Just gave it a new shot with the new beta. Upgraded from 3.12 to 3.20-30.

All I get is a white screen with a mouse pointer.

I did not have any guimods installed this time. All "non victron" was the 123BMS software (https://123electric.eu/support/123smartbms-victron-integration/installation/).

I guess I will have to reinstall everything from USB-stick again... :(

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Answer 32 · 2023-11-30T02:13:25Z

jjbond answered · Nov 30, 2023 at 02:13 AM

Wow it's beautiful, looking at it on my system, very classy looking, this is why we're with Victron, it's like I get a new product every time you update the software. LOL

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Answer 33 · 2023-12-02T10:55:40Z

jonofe answered · Dec 02, 2023 at 10:55 AM

I'm using freakent/dbus-mqtt-devices to integrate my Energy meter and my SMA and Deye PV Inverters. This works in the old gui:

When opening the gui-beta I see the following:

So, no solar inverters, no grid information.

Is it possible to integrate these information also in the new gui-beta? Or did I miss a configuration?

All information is available via MQTT, why is it not shown here?

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samurai commented · Dec 08, 2023 at 03:50 PM

Upgraded from 3.20~17 to 3.20~33 and information from my mqtt p1 meter is not shown anymore. This is in the old Gui. Mqtt explorer shows information is send from the p1meter to the mqtt broker on the Venus device in my EasySolar II

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Answer 34 · 2023-12-04T16:12:08Z

rns answered · Dec 04, 2023 at 04:12 PM

gui v2 : missing the power in the brief overview for the battery

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Answer 35 · 2023-12-05T06:05:31Z

cali-clim answered · Dec 05, 2023 at 06:05 AM

hello avais vous un lien pour avoir os.3.20 please car victron a enlevez merci wanted os !

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Matthias Lange - DE ♦ commented · Dec 05, 2023 at 06:40 AM

Just wait a few days, the 3.20 beta will be back after the release of 3.13.

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cali-clim Matthias Lange - DE ♦ commented · Dec 06, 2023 at 07:50 AM

hello

There is already output 3.13 and no beta 3.20 version online thank you

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Matthias Lange - DE ♦ cali-clim commented · Dec 06, 2023 at 08:17 AM

Don't be so impatient...
3.13 has been released just a few hours ago.
The 3.20 beta will be back soon.

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cali-clim Matthias Lange - DE ♦ commented · Dec 06, 2023 at 08:19 AM

ok thank

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Answer 36 · 2023-12-05T09:53:45Z

dutchsolarfreak answered · Dec 05, 2023 at 09:53 AM

Hello

Just to let you know.

Voltage and current for a AC-Coupled PV are not shown in gui-v2

in gui-v1 they are visible

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Answer 37 · 2023-12-06T09:42:21Z

pwfarnell answered · Dec 06, 2023 at 09:42 AM

Will there be a page for Cerbo GX digital inputs and a page for relays like there is for the tanks and temperatures so all Cerbo connected equipment can be viewed without going into the devices list. I can not recall seeing these and I am not on my boat at the moment to confirm.

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Answer 38 · 2023-12-06T13:33:09Z

andrii-podanenko answered · Dec 06, 2023 at 01:33 PM

I have only 1 Multi RS 6000

But gui-beta shows 4 of these )))

All good in "old" UI

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Answer 39 · 2023-12-07T04:45:04Z

mvader (Victron Energy) answered · Dec 07, 2023 at 04:45 AM

Hey do you have a Mopeka Pro Check-Water and Pro Check-Sensor LPG? Or one of the four newly supported models, Universal Pro, TD40, Pro 200 and Pro+?

Then please in a comment to this answer confirm that all works well. We tested this in the lab, but would great to get confirmation that it works well in various systems. Please mention the Mopeka model(s) you have - thanks!

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pwfarnell commented · Dec 07, 2023 at 04:31 PM

When I tested V3.20~31 earlier in the month my 2 Mopeka Pro-Check LPG sensors were working OK. Not on the boat now so can not check V3.20~33.

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Stefanie (Victron Energy Staff) ♦♦ commented · Dec 11, 2023 at 08:24 AM

Mopeka Pro Check-Water and Pro Check-LPG working well in my system with 3.20~33 (both old and new gui).

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Answer 40 · 2023-12-07T17:10:48Z

luphi answered · Dec 07, 2023 at 05:10 PM

What a damn beautiful new UI this is!

I'm running now 3.20~33 on a Cerbo GX + Touch 70, but I' cant enable the console on the Touch 70. The switch under Settings - Display & language is simply not there. Neither in the console still running v1 nor in the browser running v2
Will the relays be manageable under the device control page eventually?

Cheers, luphi

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Kevin Windrem commented · Dec 07, 2023 at 05:37 PM

You should be able to access gui-v2 from a web browser at venus.local/gui-beta (or substitute venus.local with the IP address of your Cerbo on your network).

gui-v2 is not accessible via VRM yet but that is being worked on.

I just checked ~33 and the UI version selection should be at the bottom of the Settings / Display & Language menu. If it is not there, try rebooting.

You can switch to the beta GUI from the local display, VRM or a local web browser HOWEVER you can't switch back from VRM or a local web browser because GUI v1 is no longer running and the remote gui-v2 does not have the UI version selection. You need to go to the local display to switch back to the standard GUI. You can also do this from the command line via ssh:

dbus -y com.victronenergy.settings /Settings/Gui/RunningVersion SetValue 1
svc -t /service/start-gui

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luphi Kevin Windrem commented · Dec 08, 2023 at 12:34 PM

I rebooted several times. Last entry in "Settings / Display & language" is "Units".

Nevertheless the dbus hint was working. Setting the value to 2 enables the new GUI. On v2 there is the entry to switch back to v1.

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Kevin Windrem luphi commented · Dec 08, 2023 at 11:04 PM

I looked at the code and the UI version selection visibility depends on a couple of vePlatform methods plus the release type set to ReleaseCandidate. That is set in Settings / Firmware / Online updates. If it is set to Latest release then you won't see it but I'm guessing you are set to latest release candidate since you are running RC firmware. Might be something Victron wants to take a look at. @mvader (Victron Energy)

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Answer 41 · 2023-12-07T21:01:08Z

lfkenney answered · Dec 07, 2023 at 09:01 PM

Beta GUI - Settings, Device List, Grey Water (in my case it's a Mopeka Pro), "Sensor value when empty" is listed twice. The second instance should say "Sensor value when full".

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Answer 42 · 2023-12-08T01:08:58Z

cali-clim answered · Dec 08, 2023 at 01:08 AM

HELLO

can we put the appearance of gui-v2 on the cerbo gx victron instead os 3.20.33? thank you

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Dec 08, 2023 at 10:43 PM

Hi, I don’t understand what you mean, can you explain?

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Answer 43 · 2023-12-08T14:21:17Z

whiskeyjack answered · Dec 08, 2023 at 02:21 PM

Maybe this has not yet been implemented...

Have a fairly straightforward installation, 3 x mppt and 1x phoenix 120V 1200W inverter and two battery banks. All devices running current firmware according to victron connect.

The solar pieces are working, the inverter however is only sort of working it shows in the GUI, with its correct state of operation and output values when a load is connected. What I am unable to do however is change the operation mode from the GUI, there is no action upon selecting the inverter in the overview, I also cannot drill down for any details in the Settings -> device list display, unlike the mppts or the old Gui.

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Kevin Windrem commented · Dec 08, 2023 at 04:25 PM

Yes the mode button in the drill-down does not work and there is no page for the inverter in device list yet. However, you can use the control page (the switch upper left) to access the mode selector and that one does work.

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whiskeyjack Kevin Windrem commented · Dec 09, 2023 at 07:46 PM

Thanks Kevin, the control page icon/switch doesn't seem to work either it returns a basically empty page, selecting the same on the new empty page returns.to the original page as I would expect

Current Chrome browser on up to date Android 14.

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Answer 44 · 2023-12-08T21:47:30Z

kenzo answered · Dec 08, 2023 at 09:47 PM

Just upgraded from 3.10 to 3.20~33 and the "legacy" UI stopped working.

Looking into my browser, I could see the websockify requests to :81 didn't work; reason being that there was no websockify running on my system.
While writing this report, I noticed that it started working out of a sudden, reason being websockify-c appeared out of the blue:

Note the time stamps, websockify-c appeared after ~29m of uptime.

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Dec 08, 2023 at 10:44 PM

Hi, that is really strange. And haven’t heard or noticed this myself yet.

I’ll pass this along. And is it ok if we log into your system to see more in the logs?

(Remote support needs to be enabled for that, and we’ll look the system up by email)

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kenzo mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Dec 09, 2023 at 03:30 PM

> And is it ok if we log into your system to see more in the logs?

Absolutely if we can do this e.g. in a remote debugging session (via Zoom?), if that's not an option please let me know what logs you need and I'll provide them asap.

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derrick thomas kenzo commented · Dec 09, 2023 at 03:34 PM

If you enable remote support in the GX menu they can access your device from the backend. I imagine they can see things that way that the average user cannot. This will not open up your system to anyone outside of victron support.

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ derrick thomas commented · Dec 09, 2023 at 03:38 PM

the option is in the Settings -> General menu.

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kenzo mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Dec 10, 2023 at 09:18 PM

I'm a bit old school when it comes to unsupervised access to a system I own, that's why I mentioned a screen sharing session; if that's not possible, I can still provide any logs you might need asynchronously.

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Answer 45 · 2023-12-08T23:26:09Z

christiangurk answered · Dec 08, 2023 at 11:26 PM

Hi,

I upgraded from 3.20~10 to 3.20~33 some hours ago. I just wanted to give you some feedback on the new version. For me, everythink looks fine on the first impression: VRM Portal working fine, http://venus.local/gui-beta/ working fine, venus.local opens the remote console as usual.

Only problem I have is dbus-mqtt-device-driver doesn't work properly anymore. I already opened a comment on the github-repository (https://github.com/freakent/dbus-mqtt-devices/issues/62#issuecomment-1847598704).

Let's see, if there is a problem which can be fixed soon. Otherwise I would have to switch back to 3.20~10 as I need the dbus-mqtt-device driver for my emulated pvinverter to be taken into account of my solar production properly.

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Answer 46 · 2023-12-08T23:40:45Z

Noel answered · Dec 08, 2023 at 11:40 PM

I've just enabled the new GUI on my Cerbo GX and Touch 70, and it looks great.
(Till now I was only accessing it through Chrome on the URL http://ip_of_cerbo/gui-beta/

Just our of curiosity. How do I change the GUI on the Touch 70 back to the "old" GUI?
Running version: 3.20~33

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Kevin Windrem commented · Dec 08, 2023 at 11:42 PM

Same way you switched to the beta GUI -- in Settings / Display & Language.

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Noel Kevin Windrem commented · Dec 08, 2023 at 11:43 PM

That is what I thought, but that option is missing!

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Kevin Windrem Noel commented · Dec 08, 2023 at 11:57 PM

The UI selection only appears on the local GUI, not via web page, etc.

Someone else reported not seeing the UI selection with the old GUI also so maybe an issue for Victron to look into.

You can also switch back via the command line if you have ssh access. I posted that earlier but here it is again

dbus -y com.victronenergy.settings /Settings/Gui/RunningVersion SetValue 1
svc -t /service/start-gui

change the 1 after SetValue to switch to gui-v2 also

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Noel Kevin Windrem commented · Dec 09, 2023 at 12:11 AM

"The UI selection only appears on the local GUI, not via web page, etc."

That did the trick for me.

Funny. Changing to the Beta GUI did work over the web page.
Going back does not...

Anyway. Thank you for your help!

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Kevin Windrem Noel commented · Dec 09, 2023 at 12:20 AM

Yea, the old GUI is actually just mirrored between the local and web page/VRM. The new GUI is running separate instances and will have minor differences like you found. I actually stumbled across the same thing when I first tested gui-v2.

The good news is that since the GUI runs independently, they won't affect each other like GUI v1. They can be displaying different menus or pages. In fact you can have several remote GUIs running simultaneously all different pages. That was one of the big motivators for doing the new GUI that way.

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Noel Noel commented · Dec 08, 2023 at 11:50 PM

Settings / Display & Language

This is under Language (all the way down it shows some more languages)

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Answer 47 · 2023-12-10T16:42:55Z

pf-1 answered · Dec 10, 2023 at 04:42 PM

Is it possible that as of version 3.20~33 the "/keepalive" method described here no longer works reliably?

With this command I only get a return value every now and then:

mosquitto_pub -h 192.168.1.10 -t "R/e0ff50a097c0/keepalive" -m '["battery/512/System/MaxCellVoltage"]' | mosquitto_sub -C 1 -W 1 -h 192.168.1.10 -t "N/e0ff50a097c0/battery/512/System/MaxCellVoltage"

This comand still worked reliable with version 3.20~30.

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pf-1 commented · Dec 10, 2023 at 04:56 PM

Perhaps I should add that the command is sent on a Raspberry that is connected to the same network as the cerbo-gx but not on der cerbo itself.

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pf-1 pf-1 commented · Dec 10, 2023 at 06:01 PM

Sorry no idea why the command was cut off. It reads completely:

mosquitto_pub -h 192.168.1.10 -t "R/e0ff50a097c0/keepalive" -m '["battery/512/System/MaxCellVoltage"]' | mosquitto_sub -C 1 -W 1 -h 192.168.1.10 -t "N/e0ff50a097c0/battery/512/System/MaxCellVoltage"

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ pf-1 commented · Dec 10, 2023 at 09:13 PM

Hi @PF_1 that looks like a "selective keepalive", which is no longer supported.

I've two docs that might provide more details:

https://github.com/victronenergy/dbus-flashmq

and

https://github.com/victronenergy/venus/issues/1098

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Answer 48 · 2023-12-10T21:22:09Z

kenzo answered · Dec 10, 2023 at 09:22 PM

Just noticed that beta UI won't show ESS Battery Status Reason Code Numbers.

Old UI:

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Dec 11, 2023 at 06:24 AM

Hi, thank you - is being worked on

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Answer 49 · 2023-12-10T22:55:48Z

elvis answered · Dec 10, 2023 at 10:55 PM

Installed Venus OS v3.20~33 (from v3.20~30 ).

I have read the appropriate docs (including the ones a few posts above).

Not too happy with the FlashMQ. I have my own python interface I use daily and FlashMQ appears to be far slower than is acceptable. Previously I had about 1.5 second data. It now take's about 30 seconds just for the interface to start and the reading's are not able to be "near realtime". They are far to late to be useful, up to 20 seconds or more behind.

Hoping as this progresses that I can provide additional feedback and figure this out. For now, I'm reverting back to v3.20~30.

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mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Dec 11, 2023 at 06:20 AM

Hi @Elvis , that is completely opposite of our experience, FlashMQ is much faster.

Can you provide more information of what you are doing? Ie what messages are you sending, etc?

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elvis mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ commented · Dec 11, 2023 at 08:10 AM

I have created two python test files.

mqtt_test1.py is how I subscribe in my scripts using paho subscribe.simple()

its slower (a little over a second for 21 variables) but requires much less code (100 lines in this example case)

1.5 seconds or less on V3.20~30

21 seconds on V3.20~33

mqtt_test2.py is very fast on both V3.20~30 and V3.20~33

I guess if I have to adapt using the second example I will but it seems strange that there is a huge difference.

The keep-alive is run on the GX device in a loop

mqttpublish.single("R/"+VRMid+"/keepalive", hostname=ip)

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wolferl commented · Dec 11, 2023 at 06:33 AM

Hi elvis

I use a python script as well, but had no lock to connect since the change to flashMQ, always get rc 7, please see also https://community.victronenergy.com/questions/248030/connect-to-flashmq-via-python-fails.html

I use the Paso.mqtt library

Do you have an idea why that happens?

How do you connect to flashMQ in python?

Thank you

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elvis wolferl commented · Dec 11, 2023 at 08:26 AM

See my reply to mvader above.

I use the paho module for mqtt

Have a look at my example zip file attached.

Please dont take any code I wrote as a good practice (it's likely embarrassingly funky, but somehow I usually make it work ).

Both examples work but not as desired for test1

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wolferl elvis commented · Dec 11, 2023 at 12:30 PM

Thank you, I'll definitely have a look into your examples!

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