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How to engine charge Pylontechs?

I am trying to figure out how to safely and efficiently charge my 48V Pylontech 4.8kWh US5000 LiFePO Battery setup using my narrowboat engine...

I have been advised by a trusted boat electrician that drop-in batteries like pylontechs can’t be charged directly from alternators, not even using regulator-controlled high-spec alternators, as the stop charge signal from the Pylontech BMS causes too much of a voltage spike that would damage the alternator and the regulator…

Can anyone advise on how I might be able to resolve this without losing too much of the efficiency of charge that lithiums offer?

I have heard people mention hybrid batteries (using a Lead Acid battery to absorb or protect from the voltage spikes somehow?), or using a DC to DC charger from the 12V starter batteries (I would assume this would negate the efficiency of charge that you can get with Lithiums, but maybe there's a setup that works around this)?

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kevgermany avatar image kevgermany ♦♦ commented ·

Tricky one. The US5000 needs a lot of current at 48V.

A little more information needed please.

One alternator, shared with starter battery, or a second for the house battery?

What voltage alternator(s)?

Do you have any other Victron kit like a multiplus, or Cerbo?

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Matthias Lange - DE avatar image Matthias Lange - DE ♦ commented ·
As far as I know Pylontech batteries are not designed to be used in vehicles (RV or boat) only for stationary systems like ESS.
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ianmcnobody avatar image ianmcnobody Matthias Lange - DE ♦ commented ·

I didn't realise you'd both replied - apologies!


I have 2 alternators - 1 x 65A and 1 x 175A (standard spec on a Beta 90T Greenline engine) - both 12v.

My pylontech batteries are connected via a Lynx Distributor to a EasySolar II GX 48/5000/70, with the built-in mppt connected to a 1600W PV array.

I am now planning to connect the 175A alternator to a 130Ah AGM battery that will connect to a Sterling 12v to 48v 70A charger - https://www.bimblesolar.com/sterling-pro-ultra48-12 - which will be wired into the Lynx Distibutor (with 80A fuse and 32A switch), and I'm hoping that this isn't a hopelessly inefficient way to charge the Pylontechs?


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Mike Dorsett answered ·

If you run the engine at or near idle, you will need to adjust the pulley on the alternator to make sure it has good operating rpm, also make sure the engine can provide the power to drive the alternator too. Running the alternator to an AGM battery is a good idea, though I would have started with a 24V alternator and system. To charge the pylontech's you need to keep the charge current within the 0.5C rating - for max charge, and preferably be able to reduce the charge current on demand by the BMS - as cell voltages approach max, and balancing occurs.

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