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Wrong AC in reading MP2

Hello guys, i'm facing issues with my ACin reading ( amp vs watts doesn't seems to be possible)

I Have : Multiplus 2

Cerbo GX

Mppt smart solar

Any of you have the same mesurements or my mp2 has a bad energx metter ?

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@Gabius Hi, I have the same problem as you, it's similar on AC Out too :) you definitely have it too if you look better :) ... what I noticed on other forums, other people have it too and never thought of it U * I mean in this case unequal W :P

I would understand a deviation of 20~40W, but 179W is already quite a lot, paradoxically higher demand = higher difference... so what does it actually push the VRM to, what data??? What is real data???

I have one MPII that I sent for a claim for this purpose, so far I have replaced it with a brand new one :) it worked exactly for about 30 seconds before it started showing nonsense, but those 30 seconds were CORRECTLY MEASURED.. ammeter at the output and input.

They even posted it as a bug:

https://community.victronenergy.com/storage/attachments/41748-2021-12-mpii-esii-quaii-current-sense-socket-issue.pdf

Paradoxically, the new MPIIs no longer have a 3.5 jack :D so the instruction how to fix it... I think it didn't work :P but I disconnected the terminals and connected it is basically the same procedure as with the jack... erm it didn't help :D what a surprise :D



@Guy Stewart (Victron Community Manager) @Alexandra @mvader (Victron Energy)

I would greatly appreciate it if someone from Victron or experienced members could describe how it actually measures and what it actually measures.

Such improvements as the solar profit forecast are also encouraging :D but that's probably is for two things, if it shows people nonsense, sorry wrong data :)



AC IN 244 x (-1.4) = -341.6 aprox. 10x more :D BUT -1.4A is freezed value…

AC Out 244 x 1.8 = 439.2 … also diferecne only 273W :P

I ask WHY … ??? … how to explain that for customers ??? Logicaly, Matematicaly :D :D :D Sorry…



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@Gabius

@Juraj Nikolov

V * A is a very simple way of looking at power, but in a circuit there is also R....

And then there is power factor. There are bunch of things in your systems that do most likely have poor power factor. Led lights can be a major one. E.g a 7w led light with 0.5 PF actually draws 14W. Just the volt amps are out of sync.

So deeper elctrical maths and electronic circuit equations can (cos phi etc) explain alot more.

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