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When I click on the Show Forecast button, nothing happens and the button disappears.

Location is set but the temp data is wrong.

2 days chart in VRM Android application looks badly... I don't see consumption when solar is bigger...

Mine is working fine by the looks of it but only checked on my PC. Thanks for the new feature, really helpful as I had been using Node Red and my own calculation to forecast generation with no luck.

@Guy Is there a way to get an API for this? The reason why I ask is, I would like to predict generation vs off peak charge and therefore only charge the minimum required based on the predicted day time generation. My off peak charge period is 0200 - 0500h.

Looks like it's good for me. I like it. Thanks.

There's a persistent warning about being in the past when I go backwards to yesterday/day before. Could drop that.

Hi

This is another bug. Can you fix it?

Thanks

Suggestion. Many of us have a mobile location. With a GPS receiver connected to the system.

Current implementation seems to be useful for fixed location.

However after a few days in a fixed location the system can learn the generating power of the panels. Looks from the comments as if it's doing that.

If that's the case, it wouldn't be that hard to read the GPS location and base forecasts on that. Could be done at a variable frequency based of how quickly location changes.

For those with a Radiation sensor integrated into the VRM can you please show its live data on the dashboard please !

This looks like a neat feature and I’m especially looking forward to trying out the Node-RED integration (to possibly replace what I’m currently doing using Solcast’s rooftop PV API).

One thing I don’t like is that on iOS this has rearranged the layout to put the chart at the bottom of the page, underneath the summary statistics for the day. Could that be fixed to have the chart appear first with summary stats below it like it used to be (or made configurable to switch layout based on user preference)?

The chart also seems to be much larger in the vertical dimension than before which makes it look stretched. See screenshot below.

....this feature worked for me in VRM beta and I also tested yesterday during daytime in production VRM portal just fine.

Now, a few minutes into a new day, the "show forecast" button appears, but after clicking it, the button disappears and no forecast is shown.

It is 1:30 and forecast is not to the end of day

Please add forecast in 2-days view also.

Saw it on mine today, looks and works great! thank-you for this useful feature

Needs some work… everything is stretched out in vrm app, this is on my iphone x ios 15.4.1

THANK YOU!!!!!!
I see the forecast for today for each of my PV-Installations. I do/did this manually day by day so far based on a weather APP which also forecasts clouds and UVI to manage my loads because of limitated battery Capacity(just 20kWh). I hope that your new function saves a lot of time for me and increases the ACCURACY of my load management.

(from the actual point of view the forecast is to high (+50%) for today) I will watch it very detailed the next few days
Regards, Toni

I think the forecast feature is great, but the graph looks aweful due to it being so squashed. Why is there so much empty space? See image below.

Great feature - - bug - you cannot move cursor onto the 16:00 timeslot in this instance but you can on all the other vertical bars including the 17:00 one !

Hi, wonderful and very useful feature, thank you!

I think it might be related to the new changes that the grid infobox keeps flip-flopping between normal and weird almost every 2-3 seconds in the vrm app on my android phone.it also does it in chrome dev tools if set to mobile @Alex Imbrea (Victron Energy Staff)

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Great you've added solar forecasting, thanks. You mention 'Dynamic ESS' in the blog. It would be good to add a "From Battery" in the Grid section of VRM, for those that now export battery power to grid.

Hi - awesome feature .

Is this as simple as using the weather forecast (ie sun or rain) - or what is the algorytm behind this ? What does it take into account ? For example I have a tiny system compared to the most of you (4 x 375w panels) and the last few days I'm getting between 6.5-7kWh generated based on the use

The forecast is 5.9kWh - why does it assume lower?

Thanks, looks very promising, but I think, there is one issue there (or mayby expected behaviour?)

When some Solar value is forecasted it changes to the Recorded value after the hour is finished - I would like to see the original forcased value and inside of it the real Recorded value, so I can compare Recorded value in that hour vs. Forecasted value (to evaluate, how precise the forecast was) if you understand me.

Now when the hour is finnished the Forecasted value matches Recorded - see screenshot - in between 7:00-7:59 it forecasted 1.46 kWh, Recorded was 1.01 and after the hour finished, the Forecasted value changed to Recorded, which quite dont make a sense to me.

Thanks if that will be fixed!

Great new feature, thanks for implementing! Looking forward to that "dynamic ESS" features, too. Will get pretty interesting with varying energy prices and optimized EV-charging soon! API/MQTT access for connecting with e.g. OpenHAB for controlling further devices at home would be perfect.

Regards, Rainer

...not so sure about the accuracy of the forecast.

This is my site, with VRM forecast compared to my own, solcast-rooftop account (fully tuned some months ago, with recorded measurements by solcast).

The values in the diagram on the left:

• Solcast Forecast - is based on the integral of solcast forecast solar power values (interval PT30M)
• Solcast Forecast (yield): forecast energy up until now() (integral of forecasted values until now).
• PV Daily yield: PV Energy recorded by my inverter
• Measurements yield: Integral of PV Power values from my inverter, recorded up until now

The recorded solar values match (of course) but my own solcast based forecast says 107.66kWh, compared to only 100kWh in VRM.

My forecasts are collected/updated up to 40 times between hours of sunrise and sunset, at least once every hour and I have found these to be very, very accurate during the last 1.5years.

great working, but:

sorting the widgets in advanced is confusing me now.

the widgets are jumping around wild, when i want to sort them :D

not able to get them where i want.

what is the logic behind this behavior?

an other small glitch in german language:

"systemübersicht" as a long word will not fit, when tab "solar" or "netz" is chosen,

so there is a srollbar.

perhaps just make the tab a little bit wider will prevent this.

My Panels were installed before my Quattro so are entirely separate. Can I input the parameters of my installation somewhere to get the forecast? (I understand that I won't get all the benefits.)

I'm not sure what happened to the boxes showing the 'to grid', 'from grid' etc in the summary for the period. The font with the name has gone extremely small and light. I have good eyes and struggle. It's not the best from an accessibility stand point. Now when you look at the screen you are presented with a sea of large bold numbers and it is not easy to read at a glance what they are all. It was much much clearer before. Also the boxes are now all aligned vertically taking up the whole width of the screen on a phone. There is a lot of scrolling to get to the graph. Before I am sure there was more than one at a time horizontally.

I don't want to talk down the work on the forecasts but it won't work where we live. Basing it on historical events is meaningless, machine learning or not. It's a bit like the Tesla battery basing its decision making on the the last 3 days weather. If that was indeed what happened we would not need weather forecasts. I am using the solcast weather forecast api to do all my calculations. Maybe individuals could input their own unique key and then that data is used. It does tend to be a bit optimistic but it is certainly more accurate than using historical data.

When I configured my Solar to output and enabled DC Power then I lost Per Phase data from Solar in VRM.

Solar Power is truncated and not rounded correctly . Power produced was 21.8 kWh and the Dashboard totals report 21 kWh. There is so much real estate in the power boxes - can you not provide an extra decimal resolution

Brilliant thank you @Guy Stewart (Victron Community Manager) I know why I invested in Victron! Keep up the good work

Nit picking, but please change Forecasted to Forecast.

This is a great feature thanks. If somebody hasn't reported this yet - it seems my forecast is wrong every second hour. Was like that in the beta version too.

I have Solcast set up in Home Assistant. I find is pretty accurate predicting my generation. By the end of the day the new Solar Production Forecast is defiantly close enough to my HA Solcast in its forecast to allow predictions of charge required overnight or through the next day.

Now there are ready to use solutions for dynamic-ess (europe) and EskomSePush (SA) Would it be possible to provide users with a ready to use solution for overnight cheap rate (4hrs) charging using the prediction capabilities of the Solar Production Forecast flow. It would be a great addition.

Thanks great work

@Guy Stewart (Victron Community Manager) thanks a lot for this nice feature.
Will the Gerbo use this information also

-when it's the right time to start ESS #5: Slow charge

-calculating the "Active SOC limit"

Thank you

Doesn't work for me , i match al the criteria and map on Dashboard shown my position and says sunny with the temperature but that s all , press the " Show Forecast " and for a fraction of a second is shows "Hide Forecast " have to be quick or it can be missed as it disappears , nothing else , the " Show Forecast " comes back later but just constant loop .

Mine is working fine from day one (5/7/2023).

The graphs are ok on an Android tablet.

But, nitpicking :-) , I'm also waiting for an extra decimal resolution in the oversized boxes. :-)

I note it's now forecasting Consumption for me..

A little presumpuous of it to be telling me what loads I'm going to run, but I guess it won't hurt to see an average of past values.

since the update

in dark mode, the white line unfortunately appears in black

When does the API update? VRM dashboard has updated but the API still returns the previous days data.

Hi!

This is... W or Kw?

Thanks

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Are there thresholds involved in not showing the forecast, like e.g. the animation not showing from MPPT to battery when the power <= 30 watts?

Have any of you used the VRM API in NodeRed?

I am using the VRM API NODE in NodeRed and calling the Installation Stats - Solar Irradiance Forecast, which returns the hourly forecasts for 24 hours and the total forecast under totals: vrm_solar_irradiance_fc.

I have noticed that a couple of things are not right:

1. The values are completely different from the values shown on the Victron Energy Forecast Dasboard, roughly differing by a factor of 2 or 3. So I am looking at the same site, and the forecast on the dasbhoard is completely different from the forecast for the same site as called from NodeRed. The values on the dashboard looks more or less correct but the values from the API is incorrect.

2. The total forecast returned by the API in NodeRed is way too low, it should be more than double the forecasted total value.

3. If I look at the 24 hour forecast in NodeRed, every second entry in the arrays is close to 0. So it would go something as follows: 9am: 4077w, 10am: 159w, 11am 5503w, 12pm 99w, 1pm 6084w etc. So every second entry is wrong, and almost zero.

4. I just did a call to the api at 15h20 on 9 July and it is returning the forecast for 3pm 8 July to 3pm 9 July. So it is giving "old" data, and nothing going forward. I repeated this a few times and also called the irradiance forecast which also returns old data and nothing going forward.

It may not be relevant to some but I do like the consumption forecast that is still on the beta VRM site and hope that it is included in the main VRM site. Can a Dev confirm this?

This is great, and adding the Node Red functionality into the Victron core firmware is great. Not sure if predicted temperature is included, as along with predicted solar is probably as good as it can get, especially for those with heat pumps as is a major energy demand when colder.

Non critical loads are a classic example of areas where utility demand response initiatives can see energy savings

Look forward to seeing it released, and will be adopting it.

Hi, some bug, every second hour. Screen from 9:55.
10:00 - 11:00: 0,01 kWh.

I think more accurate results will be after scheduled prediction for each MPPT used.

Thank you for this feature, very useful to me.

Will the forecast data be available in the mobile widgets in the future?

For some reason, I'm getting a zero forecast in the VRM dashboard, though the solar irradiance forecast widget in "Advanced" seems OK. My location is set and the weather widget shows correct info. I can show/hide the forecast, but it is always zero. I haven't updated CCGX firmware in some time. BTW, I've been getting Solcast forecast data directly for years and it is usually scary accurate.

My system includes a CCGX, two Quattro 48/10000/140-2x100, two MPPT 450/100, a SmartSolar Charger MPPT 150/100, a Fronius PV inverter.

Any thoughts on the zero energy forecast in the Dashboard?

Update: Odd. It is now starting to show a partial forecast.

VRM still not showing correct bidirectional flow from the Fronius to the AC load and to the Multiplus-II. The graphic incorrectly shows flow in one direction only even when excess power from the Fronius is being sent to the batteries.. This issue has been reported months ago and is still a bug that seems to be getting over looked.

Firstly thank you very much to Victron and Solcast for adding this..!

I've been integrating Solcast and VRM via nodered for over a year and it's amazingly powerful for being off grid.

If I can suggested a future upgrade would be to include the P10 forecast and also provide a roll up for the day being forecast - battery used.

This is very very powerful as you can simply say if the forecast - battery > 10 then turn on x. I used this feature to turn on hotwater, air conditioning etc. I use the P10 forecast as the test when i need things with a long runtime so want to turn on early. In the last year or two I've very rarely seen an outcome lower than the P10.

Very happy to share my code if that helps the team. Oh I also have code that does the rollout and removes forecast entries that have gone into the past, this is helpful as the forecasts can be cached so you end up counting forecasts that are historical.

Thanks @Guy Stewart (Victron Community Manager) and @mvader (Victron Energy)

Firstly thank you very much to Victron and Solcast for adding this..! I've been integrating Solcast and VRM via nodered for over a year and it's amazingly powerful for being off grid. If I can suggested a future upgrade would be to include the P10 forecast and also provide a roll up for the day being forecast - battery used. This is very very powerful as you can simply say if the forecast - battery > 10 then turn on x. I used this feature to turn on hotwater, air conditioning etc. I use the P10 forecast as the test when i need things with a long runtime so want to turn on early. In the last year or two I've very rarely seen an outcome lower than the P10. Very happy to share my code if that helps the team. Oh I also have code that does the rollout and removes forecast entries that have gone into the past, this is helpful as the forecasts can be cached so you end up counting forecasts that are historical. Thanks @Guy Stewart (Victron Community Manager) and @mvader (Victron Energy)

From now on there are apparently three digits (red markers) to see, thanks!

Question:

What is the text "Recorded" and "Forecasted" meaning in the main graph screen in the VRM app? (green markers). It seems meaningless in that place?