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Phoenix 12/375 early overload

Hi,

My Phoenix 12/375 is supposed to power my Grohe Blue Home water dispencer with max power of 280W. The Phoenix goes into overload almost immediately. I have a battery bank of 650Ah (fully charged). I have measured the consumption of the water dispencer with my Multiplus Compact + Cerbo and have shown max 150-160W.

Have checked the Phoenix with Victron connect, all parameters as standard.

Claiming 700 peak watt it looks strange.

Any idea?

Thx,

Tibor

Phoenix Inverter
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@Tibor Johancs

It may be the power factor of the appliance, or the way it controls its power (i.e. triac based)

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Tibor Johancsik answered ·

Thanks, I have started to monitor the appliance amp usage. I have already seen unusual peaks. Unfortunately I have only a multimeter at hand here on the boat, so ‘storage’ is my eye … It is a cooler (around 0,6 A) + a motor (or alike) to build up the water pressure within the appliance for the soda water. When it starts, it makes peaks, that might bring the phoenix into overload. And when starting after overload again, and again until shutdown …

Funny Grohe stating max 280W …

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Tibor Johancsik answered ·

Hi,

The water dispencer pump motor at startap consumes 3,5A for a few ms, than goes back to 0,5 A. The cooler consumes 0,1A (both on 220). So I swapped my 12/375 for a 12/500, that can handle the 3,5A peak.

BUT: It means, I need to use a 70A fuse for those few ms when 10-15A would do for normal operation.

Did anyone use a buffer capacitor in parrallel with the battery (like car HIFI folks with the sub bass)? When seldom needed (after drinking a glass of water) the inverter could drain the additional power from the capacitor, while in normal mode (pump already running / cooling) the power could come from the battery - and charghing the capacitor. Thus I could avoid to double/tripple the fuse, and use a reasonable 20-30A intead of 70.

Thx,

Tibor

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