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VE.Smart Networking problem

When I turn on VE.Smart Networking, my bluesolar device (it has a VE.Direct Bluetooth Smart dongle Rev.2 connected to it) immediately increases the watts and amperes to about twice what the panels actually give. I can verify this because I have BMW-712 Smart in my system. When I leave Smart Networking, everything is okay again. Why is that?


It looks like this when smart networking is turned of.

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And like this when I have it turned on.

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MPPT ControllersBMV Battery MonitorVE.Smart Network
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Hi @Jere Lindroos

What happens when you only remove the BMV from the smart network? Does it also drop bak in that case?

Are you sure that the only connection to the battery is through the BMV? The weird thing is indeed that the MPPT reporting more current but the BMV is not registering it.

Can you post some more information, like screen shots of the Product info pages of both the MPPT and the BMV (so the firmware version are visible), perhaps settings like battery type and charge voltages and so on?

Kind regards,

Thiemo van Engelen

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jere-lindroos avatar image jere-lindroos Thiemo van Engelen (Victron Energy staff) ♦ commented ·

First of all, thank you for helping me, I really appreciate it.


(What happens when you only remove the BMV from the smart network? Does it also drop bak in that case?)

- The MPPT shows crazy numbers when it is in the Smart Network, no matter if the Smart Shunt is in the network or not.


(Are you sure that the only connection to the battery is through the BMV? The weird thing is indeed that the MPPT reporting more current but the BMV is not registering it.)

-100% sure.


(Can you post some more information, like screen shots of the Product info pages of both the MPPT and the BMV (so the firmware version are visible), perhaps settings like battery type and charge voltages and so on?)

-Battery type is Victron AGM. The problem has been since I first tried Smart Networking (I think it was in 2021) and I always try if it is fixed with every firmware update but no luck yet. I have these setting recommended in this video for both the MPPT and Smartshunt. https://youtu.be/mEN15Z_S4kE

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Hi @Jere Lindroos

And is there any other load connected? Because in the case without networking, the BMV is registering 6.67A, but the MPPT is producing 9.7A towards the battery. So either there is a load taking 3A, or there is a second path into the battery that is not going through the shunt of the BMV (for example through chassis, grounding, etc).

Kind regards,

Thiemo van Engelen

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jere-lindroos avatar image jere-lindroos Thiemo van Engelen (Victron Energy staff) ♦ commented ·

Yes there is load, my fridge was on when I took these photos. It doesnt matter if there is no load, same thing. And even if the battery is 100% and no loads, when i add my MPPT to Smart Networking it starts immediately to show wrong numbers. And always more than is actually true, never less. Only at night when the charger is off the MPPT shows same numbers as the Smart Shunt.


When I only have Smart Shunt connected to Smart Networking, it works fine.

When I add MPPT or only have MPPT In Smart Network, it shows crazy numbers.

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jere-lindroos answered ·

Please I need an answer. Planning on adding another MPPT controller so I need Smart Networking to work.

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