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Multiplus remote shutdown

A system has 3 mulitplusses (3 phase config). We want to shut the system down with the remote console in the VRM monitoring (since we are abroad).


Which menu option should we use?


Regards


Robert

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boekel answered ·

You can turn the Multi's off in the 'device list' menu




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markus answered ·

There is no option for this in the menus as far as I know.

But you could consider, to use the generator start stop relay function. This could then be triggered via Remote Console.


Regards,

Markus

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markus answered ·

Hi Boekel,

Thank you, I completely missed that. I was so curious, that I have overlooked this option, so I checked and it is not there in my case.

Do you have to change a setting in VEconfigure to have this setting shown?

Regards,

Markus


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boekel avatar image boekel ♦ commented ·

I never -didn't- see the option. could it be you also have a (digital) multi-control panel in the system? maybe that collides?

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Peter Polz avatar image Peter Polz commented ·

@Markus first off all you have to switch on your MP

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markus avatar image markus ♦♦ Peter Polz commented ·

I would try this out, and let then lough on me ;o) ok, you can do it first ;o)

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The option was not there, when i switched my Multis on.


Remote Control has priority... as a guess.

Could be the case, that I disabled that myself, while setting up my Multis.



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Peter Polz avatar image Peter Polz commented ·

It definitly should be there.. in case of a multi under "German" menu "UMSCHALTEN" maybe a problem of your Raspiinstallation. because it doesn't makes any difference if you have check or unchecked "overrulled by remote" because thats has only effects on shore limit. i just checked for you many configurations in office with a multi and a CCGX in office and i always have the choise between "OFF,Charger Only,On" on CCGX.. so next time you visit your installation you shouldn't forget your cell phone like today, to call me in front of device ;)

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markus avatar image markus ♦♦ commented ·

No, option is not shown on my 2 Multis. Regardless what I set.

I have to mention, that I use Venus on RPi on both installations. Maybe that's a RPi problem.

I just wanted to state, that I am not blind ;o)

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John Rushworth answered ·

I control my Multi On, Off, Charger Only and Current Limit remotely via CCGX per:

https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:start#using_the_multi_and_quattro_input_current-limiter_setting

So it's using :

'Overruled by remote' setting in VEConfigure' meaning you use the CCGX in preference to a local panel such as:

https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/digital-multi-control-panel-gx

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markus avatar image markus ♦♦ commented ·

Hello John, nice to see you here.

The option to turn the multi "off" or "on" via ccgx does not depend on "overruled by remote" setting. It a Firmware dependency.

Best Regards,

Markus


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John Rushworth avatar image John Rushworth ♦♦ markus ♦♦ commented ·

Or put another way, checking overrule box allowed me to limit current to zero so Mult goes to passthru on charger only. As for switching on, off or charger only on CCGX, I assumed that was a byproduct of overruling remote.

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markus avatar image markus ♦♦ John Rushworth ♦♦ commented ·

@Peter Polz tested this 2 days ago: "because it doesn't makes any difference if you have check or unchecked "overrulled by remote" because thats has only effects on shore limit. i just checked for you many configurations in office with a multi and a CCGX in office and i always have the choise between "OFF,Charger Only,On" on CCGX."

In my case, enabling overruled by remote, did not bring this option onto my ccgx. Only a Firmware update of the Multi did.

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John Rushworth avatar image John Rushworth ♦♦ markus ♦♦ commented ·

Understood. It was a reasonable assumption on my part though!

I must first have checked overruled by remote and updated firmware.

Effectively it does switch off if set to charger only and current limit set to zero.

In my case I didn’t want my inverter kicking in if shore power failed so my boat is always set to charger only, rather than deplete batteries with inverter. I have an alarm to email me if shore power goes off, so I then simply go to the boat to check instead.

If I want my charger off I just use the current limit to zero. That way any AC loads from shore power are still on.

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markus avatar image markus ♦♦ John Rushworth ♦♦ commented ·

perfect add on to the discussion above! Thank you!

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John Rushworth avatar image John Rushworth ♦♦ markus ♦♦ commented ·

Thanks. So you can see it depends on your install type as to how we use such functionality. In other words I only have switched to On (for inverter use) when on the boat and inverter needed and normally Charger only (with Current limit set to zero or other limit) when away from boat, with an email alarm based on voltage set to say 220 or a value below usual expected shore or genny voltage - in which case I know shore or genny power has gone off when I get that mail.

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John Rushworth avatar image John Rushworth ♦♦ markus ♦♦ commented ·

Hmm. It’s what I had to do was over rule remote in VE Config to get it working on CCGX per manual link I gave.

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