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quattro stuck at 52.7hz

isolated system with quattro8k, AC and DC coupled chargers.freq shifting from 50.5-52.5hz,off at 53hz.(SMA inverters).at end of day freq stays stuck at 52.7hz through the night, failing to reset to 50hz, battery voltage is now 49,1V 82% SOC. turning on the generator resets the freq, but this is no real solution.suggestions?

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Paul B avatar image Paul B commented ·

First of all are you on the latest firmware and are all the assistants set correctly

please supply some details of all the settings and models and how everything is connected

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basreflex answered ·

just checked the settings,freqshift is from 50.2 till 52.7 float 55.2V


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Use equalization (tubular plate traction battery curve) unchecked
Charge curve Adaptive + BatterySafe
Absorption voltage 57.60 V
Float voltage 55.20 V
Charge current 110 A


batteries 24x 2V 1500Ah C10, AC coupled sma tl4000, sb4.0 (limit to 3k) , DC coupled: bluesolar 150/60, 3x makeskyblue 30, 40A modified, venus, BMV700, quattro 8K, 55V automatic fans, battery, room airconditioning at 20degrC

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basreflex avatar image basreflex commented ·

just installed an updated PV assistant, not shure wat the update involves..

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basreflex answered ·

according to the PV assistant the freq should reset at 5.2V below float, or in my case 55.2-5.2= 50V.

still at 49.1V , no reset..

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boekel avatar image boekel ♦ commented ·

Hi @basreflex, can you please first upgrade your inverter to the latest firmware?

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basreflex avatar image basreflex boekel ♦ commented ·

I have version 413, up to date

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Paul B avatar image Paul B basreflex commented ·

I dont think so I think the latest version is 459

please check again and upgrade the quattro

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basreflex avatar image basreflex boekel ♦ commented ·

VRM scan only showed the bluesolar MPPT updatable, did that ..

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boekel avatar image boekel ♦ basreflex commented ·

Hi @basreflex

Please read this:
https://www.victronenergy.com/live/updating_firmware:updating_ve.bus_products

If you don't have the equipment or don't feel sure about doing this, ask your installer to update the firmware for you.

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basreflex avatar image basreflex boekel ♦ commented ·

I design wireless chargers at 6.78 and 13.56Mhz for a living, and have a drawer full of programmers for MCU and FPGA. just have to wait till the misses does not watch the favourite TV.

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boekel avatar image boekel ♦ basreflex commented ·

Ah perfect :)
Let us know if it helped.

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peter-zmg answered ·

@basreflex

Did you manage to get this issue resolved?

I have the same problem with a Quattro 10 and it appears to have started when I upgraded the firmware from 417 to 460 and the PV assistant.

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basreflex avatar image basreflex commented ·

so it's not the firmware, that I did not upgrade yet to. there is another problem in the assistant : when the system is in 52.7 mode throttling the AC coupled power, there is no mechanism to release that power when needed. I had a few temp shutdowns for overload, while the freq was at 52.7 and the quattro was not able to release more power from the ac coupled inverters, as it only can reset the freq based on battery voltage. this is a design flaw that can be improved. the ac coupled regulation technique is quite crappy if you look at the AC voltage amplitude oscillations, when in ac coupled battery charge mode

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Hi @Peter-ZMG @basreflex @Phil_Gavin

Did you read this information:

https://www.victronenergy.com/live/assistants:pv-inverter-support#q1_-_the_system_is_locked_to_53_hz_and_does_not_resume


if you believe this is not the reason in your system, what is the site's VRM identifier?

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