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The lollypop on the VRM page shows the PV Charger state as "Off". However, the state of the solar charger is "Bulk". See attached photos. These pics were taken at basically the same time (within a few seconds). This behavior is easily reproduced on my system. IMHO, the VRM page is in error. An interesting side note that may help to track this down is that when I also energize the second solar controller, the VRM state changes to "Bulk".
@mvader do you guys have any insight on this behavior?
@jonmarinello@gmail.com the VRM can only show 1 "state" in your image one controller is on and in bulk the other is off (no PV or BattV), can you describe your set up?
To sync the MPPT state, you might consider using DVCC, again depending on your system set up.
Well worth a read 8. DVCC - Distributed Voltage and Current Control (victronenergy.com)
Is there any way to select which solar controller VRM will favor?
@jonmarinello@gmail.com not that I am aware of. What are you trying to achieve?
Getting a consistent PV display in VRM. As it stands now it shows conflicting information "Off" vs 126 Wats (see the image I originally attached). Also, the "Off" flag does NOT match what the solar controller shows in VictronConnect which shows "Bulk".
Am assuming you dont have ess here.
Maybe swap over the ve direct ports? See if it an address priority.
But DVCC basically as mentioned will syncronise things there.
Does the state change if the inverter is on (if you have one)
Hi all, when you have two solar chargers, the system will use the state from either one.
It currently picks the one with the highest instance number.
I can see some improvements, like when one of all is in error, show error. But for Bulk vs Off I'm not so sure. Some people will prefer seeing that (at least) one of their MPPTs is off; others will prefer seeing that (at least) one out of many is on.
and perhaps the easiest option: we just remove that lollypop with the state, since apparently its causing confusion.
all the best, Matthijs
After giving this just. a bit more thought... The lollypop is confusing (at least for me) because it visually represents a many-to-one relationship from the solar controllers to the lollypop. Multiple lollypops woulds looks cluttered with multiple solar controllers. How about this idea @mvader (Victron Energy)? Remove the lollypop and add the charging state (bulk, absorption, float, etc) to each of the entires (MPPT-278, MPPT-279 in the attached photo) in the solar controller box. Should be a fairly minor change and it would make this crystal clear.
@jonmarinello@gmail.com "Remove the lollypop and add the charging state (bulk, absorption, float, etc) to each of the entires (MPPT-278, MPPT-279 in the attached photo) in the solar controller box.," Agreed, this would make far more sense, unfortunately however it looks like they have just removed it entirely from the screen.
Very disappointed indeed as this was key information for decision making in our house hold.
Dear all,
Thank you for your feedback. I still don't have a simple solution I'm afraid.
One is to remove the amps from the tracker list, and add charge state back instead?
And then, thus, show that (only) in the gray section that is visible after enabling the "Details".
Regarding having options specifically for this for users, I'm sorry, and I can see how that would benefit a few, but really I am cautious about adding more and more settings. So prefer to have another solution.
Above would seem a simple effictive one to me. And voltage and power for each array, I wouldn't think amps is of high importance to most. (?)
But probably some people do like that, so when removing that we get the same discussion again.
And adding it on a new line makes that list impractically long for systems with 10 or more MPPTs.
Matthijs
+1 for reinstating the charge state lollipop as it was. I'm confused as to why someone would purposefully have unsynchronized mppts? The only time I could see you wanting them out of sync would be if you had arrays setup in different time zones lol. Am I missing something?
Where multiple mppt controllers are installed it would be far better to not show the lollipop at all on the VRM but show the state of each controller with the other details - volts, amps & watts. Surely it could be abbreviated to save character space Blk, Abs, Flt - for example. I do get fed up with having to launch VictronConnect all the time to see the state of 5 separate chargers. Even though they all have identical settings and I have DVCC on and sharing volts, temps, etc they rarely sync together as expected
