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denis-l asked

Why BMV-712 % of charge % doesn't match the battery state ?

Hi,

I have a 225Ah battery fully charged. After some weeks of slow discharge the BMV indicates 85%.

Considering that -95.5Ah has been consumed and that the voltage is 12.00V, I don't understand why the BMV doesn't indicate something around 55% based on the Ah or something even lower based on the voltage.

Thanks you for enlightening me,

Denis

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sfidler avatar image sfidler commented ·

I'm having the same problem.

My travel trailer has two 12v 100 Ah flooded lead-acid batteries in series. The BMV shows 0.240 Kwh draw but only a 1% drop in SOC when it should show a 10% drop.

Battery capacity is set to 100Ah. The battery negative cable is only connected to the BMV-702.

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jajaja avatar image jajaja sfidler commented ·
I think he need the settings of your BMV.

With my BMV 712 i have a problem also.

I looks like the same as yours.

The used Ah are a lot more then the % shows and i get no full load synchronized.

If I do the reverse, the capacity of my batteries will get bigger and bigger every day.

And that for free...

What i also understand never is why the BMV count with the real 100% capacity and not with my settings max. 75% DOD for example.

When i change the capacity down from 100% to 90% to compensate the deeper temperature in the winter now, i have to set at first thats that are the new 100% before the BMV accept the changing in his calculations. Because when i do that and the batteries haven't already 100% load at this time, i have a problem.

I think there is a lot to do for Victron.

For example a choice how the SOC is show to me, by the real capacity of the battery's or based on my individual settings who will be 75%. When i use for that a battery capacity less then the reality, the peukert effect never can been correct.

Actually it's not really useful.


My english is not the best and i hate googles translations.

But i hope everyone understand what i mean. :)

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Matthias Lange - DE avatar image Matthias Lange - DE ♦ commented ·
We need more information about your system and some screenshots of the settings.

With small load currents you can pull out more energy than with large currents ( Peukert exponent).

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sfidler avatar image sfidler Matthias Lange - DE ♦ commented ·

What additional information do you need?

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kevgermany answered ·

Guess is that there is a load bypassing the shunt. is anything connected between the shunt and the battery negative? If it's on a boat or vehicle, the battery should only be grounded/earthen on the load side of the shunt.

But the BMV will self synchronize when the battery is charged.

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denis-l answered ·

Good point @kevgermany, but there is nothing else but the shunt connected to the battery negative. Grounded on the load side. Nothing is bypassing the shunt.

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kevgermany avatar image kevgermany ♦♦ commented ·

@Matthias Lange - DE

Is there any way of splitting this into two questions? I'm getting mixed up with the two systems.

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kevgermany answered ·

@Sfidler

Your charged voltage setting looks very low. I'd expect to see it over 28V for a 24V system. Is there a reason for this?

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kevgermany answered ·

@Denis L

Please post similar shots to sfidler

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denis-l answered ·

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kevgermany answered ·

I think what's happening in both cases is that the charge voltage is set too low, meaning it synchronizes to 100% before the battery is fully charged. This should be the value specified by the battery manufacturer, for AGM usually over 14V

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denis-l avatar image denis-l commented ·

Thanks @kevgermany, The manufacturer doesn't provide this value, unfortunately. The vendor provided a chart indicating 12,65v as full charge voltage. A search on the internet shows that the full charge voltage of an AGM is ranging between 12.6 to 13.0v. As my battery has 13.8v after a full charge I suppose 13.2v is legit.

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kevgermany answered ·

I could well be wrong. But there is a recommendation in the manual to increase the charged voltage setting, to just below absorption voltage on solar based systems. I had to do this on my system.

I wonder if you're seeing self discharge in the battery. But if you assume 3% per month, probably doesn't give enough difference.

How are you measuring remaining charge to come to the difference?

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denis-l avatar image denis-l commented ·

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand your question. You mean the 12.0 volts? And what "difference"? All mesures have been made by the BMV.

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